[Peace-discuss] Recruit a Republican Against the War in
Afghanistan
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Thu Sep 3 11:56:25 CDT 2009
Why are some on this list seem to be so dead set against debate and
discussion?
It's as pointless for Democrats to keep pretending that Barack Obama or
the Democrat party has Any intent of ending
American Imperialism and Interventionism as it is for the Republicans to
pretend that the "United States has a divine mandate
to Police the World" or that "they hate us because we're Free" or that
"We're making the World safe for Democracy" or
"We're defending human rights" or any other such lies and subterfuge
that form the pretext for War.
Why not follow Cindy Sheehan's lead?
*
*"...after the Dems did regain the Congress, Nancy and Crew proceeded to
hand George many blank war checks. /In complete disgust, I resigned my
membership in a party that was too craven to deserve my valuable support./
Are you tired of being used and betrayed by Democrats, yet? Like Matt
Gonzalez (a good SF politico) who ran a principled anti-corporate
campaign as Ralph Nader's running mate in 2008, asked: "What can the
Democrats do to lose your support?" There's always the health care
"reform" that is not universal and keeps the insurance companies and
HMO's in the mix in something that should guarantee health for all and
not wealth for a few. Or how about that torture thing? Turns out that
Democrats may not have ordered it, but they are sure good about covering
it up and protecting those who did order it. I am pretty sure that the
rank and file Democrat does support single-payer health care and does
not support torture.
If you care about the fact that the illegal and immoral wars in Iraq,
Afghanistan and now Pakistan are being fully prosecuted under a
Democratic Legislative and Executive Branch tyranny, then there are just
about 32 Democrats who are worthy of supporting and 203 that must be
sent packing in 2010. <http://www.afterdowningstreet.org/node/43479>
Although 30 out of an original 52 Democrats (joined by two more) stuck
to their guns and voted twice against the war funding, and I honor their
commitment to this, I would like to single out two for this memo: Dennis
Kucinich (D-Oh) and Lynn Woolsey (D-Ca).
I think 32 Democrats should leave the party now and form a Peace Caucus,
but why am I singling out Dennis and Lynn? Well, I have spent
considerable time with both of them in their home districts and in/*
the*/ District. I have marched beside them in peace marches and shared
stages with them at rallies and teach-ins. Dennis and Lynn seem to have
been leading the gutsy charge against the bill and Lynn especially
showed remarkable back bone i
<http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2009/06/16/MNQD187GAH.DTL>n
opposing her Congressional next door neighbor and by all accounts in San
Francisco and DC, one of the most vindictive woman in the country: Nancy
Pelosi."
On 9/3/2009 11:16 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Wayne,
> Do you seriously not get what folks are talking about re negativity on
> this list?? What is the point of yr post? Does it have any positive
> effect re ending the war in Afghanistan??
> This is the kind of stuff -- pointless and relentless criticism
> -- that's been driving folks away from AWARE.
> --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Thu, 9/3/09, E. Wayne Johnson /<ewj at pigs.ag>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Recruit a Republican Against the War
> in Afghanistan
> To:
> Cc: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Date: Thursday, September 3, 2009, 11:02 AM
>
> What people tend to forget is that the Democrat Party is the War
> Party. Maybe you should point out
> the cognitive dissonance of being Anti-War and a Democrat.
>
> "Democrats claim lead as War Party"
> http://tiny.cc/warparty
>
> "Historically, the Democratic Party has been the party of war in
> the United States, having actively maneuvered to involve the U.S.
> in the First World War, Second World War, Korea, and Vietnam in
> spite of considerable popular support for isolationism or
> nonintervention, particularly among Republicans. That continues to
> be the case in spite of the White House's unfortunate adoption of
> the neoconservative formula for world domination, which is derived
> from the neocons' Trotskyite and Straussian roots rather than from
> any genuine, conservative Republican tradition. "
> http://www.antiwar.com/orig/giraldi.php?articleid=10760
>
>
>
> On 9/3/2009 10:32 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
>> [I should point out here that Rep. Tim Johnson is spectacularly good
>> on this issue. He was one of the seven House Republicans to vote for
>> the McGovern amendment, and he also voted against the war supplemental
>> - both when other Republicans were voting against it, and when they
>> were voting in favor of it.]
>>
>> In an op-ed Tuesday in the Washington Post, conservative columnist
>> George Will called for the U.S. to withdraw its troops from
>> Afghanistan. Send George Will's op-ed to your representatives in
>> Congress, and to every Republican you know. There's no plausible way
>> to end support for this war in Congress without turning some more
>> Republicans against it. And there's no law of the universe that says
>> Republicans have to support endless war and occupation in Afghanistan.
>> Many Republicans opposed the U.S. bombing of Yugoslavia in the Clinton
>> adminstration. Come out, come out, anti-war Republicans. We need you
>> now.
>>
>> http://www.commondreams.org/view/2009/09/03-3
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/recruit-a-republican-agai_b_276183.html
>>
>> --
>> Robert Naiman
>> Just Foreign Policy
>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>>
>> Senator Feingold Calls for Timetable for U.S. Troop Withdrawal from Afghanistan
>> http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/exit-afghanistan
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