[Peace-discuss] Fw: TARGET: Rep. Joe Wilson -- who yelled "You lie!" at Obama

[C. G. Estabrook]

Wouldn't it be appropriate to determine first who was telling the truth?

I think in fact it was Obama, when he denied that non-citizens would have any
right to medical care under his program.  (And of course they should, as they do
e.g. in France.)

But I'm astonished at the diversion of attention from an unfortunate aspect of
the president's program by an attempt to quell "disrespectful" speech.

If you suppress uncivil questions, you don't have to answer them, and that seems 
to be the way the administration prefers it.  --CGE


Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Seems appropriate to sign this... --Jenifer
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> --- On *Thu, 9/10/09, Adam Green, BoldProgressives.org 
> /<info at boldprogressives.org>/* wrote:
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> Progressive Change Campaign Committee 
> <http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=PckV1DHs8QLB9%2BqizKXgKhUgAsc87iyj>
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> Tonight, during a speech in which President Obama explained the need for a
> public option, right-wing Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC) played the roll of teabagger
> and yelled, "You lie!"
> 
> *Enough*. Can you sign our rapid response petition, asking Congress to
> censure Wilson?
> 
> Click here to see petition and sign. 
> <http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=8jPTe%2F61OAmAEpv0TJclZBUgAsc87iyj>
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> target 
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> Jenifer,
> 
> Tonight, we saw a momentum-shifting speech from President Obama -- and
> progressives who had the courage to speak up in recent days helped make it
> happen.
> 
> After an emergency, 6-day campaign -- launched as the West Wing was debating
> what would be in the president's speech -- *President Obama did what so many
> of us urged him to do.*
> 
> Obama embraced the public health insurance option and explained why insurers
> that profit by denying care need competition. To be fair, there were
> downsides, such as framing a public option with 60%-70% support as a
> left-wing proposal. We'll need to keep urging the president to think big and
> fulfill his mandate.
> 
> But overall, his speech moved momentum to a better place than it was 24 hours
> ago, and Obama used fighting words: promising to "call out" anyone who
> spreads misinformation to kill reform.
> 
> *One person immediately deserves to be "called out." Right-wing Rep. Joe
> Wilson (R-SC) played the roll of teabagger by yelling "You lie!" at the
> president.* Let's go on offense -- will you sign this petition to Congress? 
> <http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=kccRjXtfXgx4T6G9zdJL5RUgAsc87iyj>
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> PETITION: "Enough is enough. On an issue as critical as health care reform,
> it's time to stop the lies, the misinformation, and the uncivil disruptions.
> Rep. Joe Wilson went way over the line by yelling 'You lie' during President
> Obama's speech, and Congress should censure him immediately." Sign here. 
> <http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=6ARLqCzjbNVwxlSQSY3WwBUgAsc87iyj>
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> 
> It's getting late at night -- but let's see if we can get 20,000 signatures
> by noon tomorrow. Can you send this email to your friends who watched the
> speech?
> 
> *After you sign the petition, you'll have the option of chipping in for an ad
> targeting Wilson. *
> 
> Let's send a signal to President Obama that if he is willing to fight and win
> on the public option, a grassroots movement will be there with him --
> including going to bat against crazed teabaggers who want to kill reform.
> 
> Can you sign the petition, and pass it on to others? Click here. 
> <http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=hyz2YyNIYUEl455KtVbIZxUgAsc87iyj>
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> 
> *Censure could be a real possibility if we go on offense now. *Sen. John
> McCain called Wilson's yelling "totally disrespectful." Wilson later called
> his own actions "inappropriate and regrettable" but repeated the same
> misinformation he yelled out at President Obama -- about illegal aliens.
> 
> Frankly, an apology is not enough. Apologies weren't enough for Van Jones,
> the bold progressive who right-wingers forced to resign from the White House
> this past week for remarks taken out of context. And House Rules of Decorum
> specifically state that it is not permissible to call the President a "liar"
> -- let alone yell it.
> 
> Can you sign our petition today asking Congress to censure Wilson -- and pass
> it on? 
> <http://salsa.wiredforchange.com/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=tkWrTSsZ%2FD6ec3WvRL4SjBUgAsc87iyj>
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> 
> Thanks for being a fighting progressive!
> 
> --Adam Green, Stephanie Taylor, Michael Snook, Andrew Perez, Evan Miller, and
> the PCCC team