[Peace-discuss] [Peace] WCIA has posted a petition re resignation of Mayor Schweighart

Sat Apr 17 12:21:52 CDT 2010

Physician heal thyself...

Let's be clear as to what the aversion concerns.  It's not to Obama per 
se. If he had been strangled in his controverted cradle, there would be 
a different chief magistrate presiding over American imperial murder in 
the Middle East, and we should be organizing opposition to it.

What's amazing to me is the number of people who think they should 
mitigate their opposition because of some perceived excellence in this 
particular president.  What makes them countenance assassination and the 
summary execution of American citizens? --CGE

Brussel Morton K. wrote:
> Some of the responses on this list (Carl's and David Green's) to the
> Schweighart episode reflect an obsession (aversion) to Obama so
> strong that they won't see or consider anything else . Everything
> else in the news seems just an offshoot of, or a diversion from, some
> Obama action or inaction, indeed a conspiracy to deflect us from the
> true, one and only, problem. There is only one issue of (political)
> importance according to them, and that is Obama and his (murderous)
> policies.  They are unwilling or unable under this obsession to look
> beside the rails of a one-track mind. They are unwilling to make
> judgements that do not directly allude to Obama's policies. This in
> itself is alarming and to me crazy.
> 
> Obsession is a weakness.
> 
> --mkb
> 
> On Apr 17, 2010, at 10:32 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> 
>> The source of attacks on the mayor seems to be overt or covert
>> support for Obama's murderous policies.
>> 
>> The mayor's assertion may be wrong, but the question is legitimate.
>> The criticism of him (& the petition) seems disingenuous.
>> 
>> Stuart Levy wrote:
>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:13:25AM -0500, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>>> And of course the chief magistrate whose legitimacy the mayor
>>>> questions has ordered murder on a large scale - including
>>>> assassination and the summary execution of American citizens;
>>>> he's not merely failed to fulfill his responsibilities in
>>>> regard to corrupt and murderous police.
>>> He has, but Schweighart doesn't say anything like that. He only
>>> looks at the birth certificate.  Why? (as this is a discussion,
>>> I'm not sending to Peace nor to the courtwatch Announce list)
>>>> C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>>>> Talk about straining at a gnat & swallowing a camel... There
>>>>> should be a serious campaign for the removal of the mayor of
>>>>> Champaign - & the other members of the Champaign City Council
>>>>> - for nonfeasance in not dismissing police officers
>>>>> responsible for the killing of an unarmed 15-year-old.  But
>>>>> instead we have a frivolous campaign for his removal because
>>>>> he points out that the Constitution requires the president to
>>>>> be a natural-born citizen - as it does (art. 2, sect. 1) -
>>>>> and that questions have been raised whether Obama qualifies -
>>>>> as they have. It's hardly wrong to ask the question, as Obama
>>>>> supporters seem to assert. What's curious is the dog (or the
>>>>> mule) in the night - how hesitant the Democrats have been in
>>>>> answering the question.  You'd think that they would go out
>>>>> of their way to refute any suggestion that Obama is not
>>>>> constitutionally entitled to be president.  --CGE Marti
>>>>> Wilkinson wrote:
>>>>>> I'm of the opinion that removing the mayor from office is
>>>>>> best done with the vote of the people. Setting aside his
>>>>>> stupid remarks at the 'Tea Party' - I would like to see a
>>>>>> democratic process take place where *his record* **becomes
>>>>>> the focus. Since he has taken office he has supported the
>>>>>> actions of the police force, has voted against 
>>>>>> broadband,and is generally rude and boorish towards the
>>>>>> citizens who question the actions of the city council
>>>>>> during public commentary. I could go on of course, but
>>>>>> demanding that he resign at this point will just bring out
>>>>>> every 'birther' out of the woodwork. Is that really in the
>>>>>> best interest of the citizenry.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Besides, Jerry is a figurehead at best. The person who
>>>>>> really runs the show in Champaign is Steve Carter...perhaps
>>>>>> we can circulate a petition asking him to resign over his
>>>>>> failure to fire Chief Finney and for allowing Officer
>>>>>> Norbits to work while supposedly on 'administrative leave'.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Marti
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:01 AM, Jenifer Cartwright 
>>>>>> <jencart13 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I just watched the Ch 3 News. The lead story was about
>>>>>>> Schweighart and titled, "Caught On Tape." The story ended
>>>>>>> w/ an online petition re the Mayor's resignation. Here's
>>>>>>> the link to the story 
>>>>>>> http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext/?nxd_id=143655&watch=1
>>>>>>> and the petition
>>>>>>> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/schweighartresign/
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <http://illinoishomepage.net/fulltext/?nxd_id=143655&watch=1>They
>>>>>>>  played the YouTube video a couple of times, and took
>>>>>>> statements afterwards in which he reaffirmed his opinion
>>>>>>> that Obama isn't an American because he wasn't born in
>>>>>>> the US, tho' he conceded he's become a citizen since
>>>>>>> then. They interviewed the grad student John O'Connor,
>>>>>>> the guy who taped Schweighart. He said he went public w/ 
>>>>>>> the tape because "it's the right of all citizens to know
>>>>>>> that he believes this and to make judgments based on
>>>>>>> this. He is a private citizen, but the fact is, he is
>>>>>>> also the mayor... and if he believes a fringe, frankly
>>>>>>> loony conspiracy theory, that directly impacts his
>>>>>>> ability to do his job." The report said that the mayor 
>>>>>>> said his office has received several phone calls, some
>>>>>>> asking for his resignation, but that that's "something
>>>>>>> that won't happen anytime soon." County Board member Alan
>>>>>>> Kurtz said that the mayor should resign as he represents
>>>>>>> the city... and "How do you run a city when you don't
>>>>>>> have the facts?"
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jennifer Roscoe said that 3 cases re Obama's Citizenship
>>>>>>> had been filed w/ the IL Supreme Court and all had been
>>>>>>> dismissed.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> She also said that there is an online petition and that
>>>>>>> Channel 3 wants to know what we think. Again, here's that
>>>>>>> link
>>>>>>> http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/schweighartresign/
>>>>>>> --Jenifer

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