[Peace-discuss] Andrew Bacevich -- check this out!!

[David Green]

I don't put much stock in the moral distinction between Bush & Obama. Moralism 
was Bush's political persona, while pragmatism is Obama's. They're both 
pragmatists in service of corporate interests.




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From: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>
To: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Cc: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Peace Discuss 
<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Tue, August 3, 2010 10:47:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Andrew Bacevich -- check this out!!

Bacevich' "mature" position - that apparently presented in his new book,
"Washington Rules: America’s Path to Permanent War" - can't be called "middle of
the road."

Michael Lind writes, "Although he is a traditionalist conservative, or
'paleoconservative,' Bacevich has found his audience chiefly on the liberal 
left..."

Bacevich thinks, e.g., Obama more deserving of contempt than Bush.

Also, why did the European powers "rethink the policy of endless war"?  After 
they almost destroyed themselves twice in the 20th century, their populations 
insisted on a transnational social democratic arrangement.  We haven't done that 

here, and as a result our government and business "community" have done a good 
deal to undermine the European model.


On 8/3/10 1:25 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> One of MY main goals is to get US decision makers to rethink the policy of
> endless war, much as the European powers have done. Andrew Bacevich -- middle
> of the road ex army guy -- is getting far more media attention, and he's
> being taken more seriously than somebody from the radical left, and his
> message just may make a difference. I'm hoping it's a NYT Bestseller.
> --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Mon, 8/2/10, David Green /<davegreen84 at yahoo.com>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Andrew
> Bacevich -- check this out!! To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>,
> "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com> Cc: "Peace Discuss"
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Date: Monday, August 2, 2010, 7:52 PM
>
> The "progressive" left loves to be all over any apparent crack in the
> establishment facade. Sometimes, it's worthwhile in terms of an insider
> perspective, cf., during the Bush Admin. But I think there's more than that
> going on--the residual need for many on the left to show that they're not
> really radical--that "respectable" people agree with them. And Bacevich has
> found his niche there. He doesn't get any tough questions from Goodman,
> except somewhat belatedly and pointlessly at the end. I'm not sure what
> they're thinking interviewing this man in a softball match, or maybe I am
> sure and want to cut Goodman some slack. DG
>
>



      
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