[Peace-discuss] China's economic achievement
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Thu Aug 26 11:55:26 CDT 2010
I agree Laurie. You have the general picture well in hand.
But 1) will happen gradually no matter what.
2) is in progress on a quite slow scale.
3) is less likely actually.
4) is something China certainly does not want.
On 8/27/2010 12:26 AM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
> >Regarding China paying attention to the rules laid down by the State
> Department, the only real threat the US poses to China is that China's
> exports to the US might be taxed heavily or restricted, which is
> >actually quite possible.
> A possibility but I do not think it is highly probable since to do so
> would (1) increase prices to US consumers for many of the products
> that they now buy and for which US retailers are dependent on China
> for, (2) cause China to cash in their surplus of US currency in
> retribution causing the US dollar to fall in value, (3) result in
> China closing its doors to US companies doing business in China on
> both the consumer level (e.g., McDonalds and the like) and on the
> industrial and wholesale levels, and (4) produce even less cooperation
> on the international level with the US. The US has more to lose than
> China if it should impose said import taxes or restrictions; it might
> also face world wide sanctions imposed on it by the WTO should China
> bring a complaint of violation of free trade agreements under the WTO.
>
> *From:* E. Wayne Johnson <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:44 AM
> *To:* C. G. Estabrook <mailto:galliher at illinois.edu>
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss List <mailto:peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] China's economic achievement
>
> I agree about the shortsightedness of China re the environment and
> many other issues re sustainability.
>
> And indeed they have imported a great deal of technology, but there is
> some understanding of the technology.
>
> My 3.5 year old computer monitor (an Acer flat panel) lost its back
> light the night before last at 2 am while dr. Qiao was using it. I
> took it across the street yesterday at just before 1 in the afternoon
> to the little computer shop. The guy brought it back to me repaired
> just before 3 pm. This is in Qixian, a relative backwater town. It
> cost $16 to have it fixed.
>
> Regarding China paying attention to the rules laid down by the State
> Department, the only real threat the US poses to China is that China's
> exports to the US might be taxed heavily or restricted, which is
> actually quite possible. Military power isnt any threat whatsoever to
> China. They wont back down. Crimping China's oil supply seems to be
> a clear goal of the US but the effect is not at all clear.
>
>
> On 8/26/2010 5:28 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>>
>> China's economic achievement has little to do with globalization. It
>> is related to trade and export. China has gradually become an
>> export-oriented country. No one, myself included, is opposed to
>> exports. But this is not globalization. In fact, China has become a
>> factory in the Northeast Asian production system. If you look at the
>> whole region, you will find it very dynamic. China's export volume is
>> enormous. But there is something we have overlooked. China's export
>> relies heavily on the exports of Japan, Korea and the US. These
>> countries provide China with high-tech components and technologies.
>> China is just doing the assembly, and labelling the final products as
>> 'Made in China.'
>>
>> China has developed rapidly by following wise policies. But while
>> millions of people were lifted out of poverty, costs such as
>> environmental degradation are high. They are merely transferred to
>> the next generation. Economists will not worry about them, but these
>> are costs that someone needs to pay for ultimately. It may be your
>> children or grandchildren. These have nothing to do with
>> globalization and the WTO.
>>
>> http://chinadigitaltimes.net/2010/08/noam-chomsky-in-china/
>>
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