[Peace-discuss] Who should be in jail, Biden or Assange? Obama or Manning?

[E. Wayne Johnson]

I think that Ex Post Facto Laws...
...er.../Retroactive Policies/...
help keep America safe from Terrorists and protect the USA from
those who "Hate Americans Because they are Free"...!!!

(maybe not /free, /exactly...how about just "cheap"?)

    /No, no!' said the Queen. 'Sentence first - verdict afterwards.'/
    /'Stuff and nonsense!' said Alice loudly. 'The idea of having the
    sentence first!'/
    /'Hold your tongue!' said the Queen, turning purple./
    /'I won't!' said Alice./
    /'Off with her head!' the Queen shouted at the top of her voice. /
    /Nobody moved./



On 12/20/2010 8:48 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> [That's the fundamental division in the US - maybe world - politics. 
> Which side are you on, Biden's & Obama's? or Assange's and Manning's? 
> That's the test for anyone who wants public office in the US in the 
> coming years. There's no excuse for voting for anyone who chooses the 
> wrong side of that alternative. --CGE]
>
>     Published on Sunday, December 19, 2010 by Agence France-Presse
>     Biden: US in Pursuit of 'Hi-Tech Terrorist' Assange
>
> WASHINGTON - The US Justice Department is exploring a legal pursuit of 
> Julian Assange, said Vice President Joe Biden, who described the 
> WikiLeaks founder as a dangerous "hi-tech terrorist."
>
> "We're looking at that right now," Biden told NBC's Sunday talk show 
> "Meet the Press," but the vice president stopped short of elaborating 
> on just how the administration could act against the head of the 
> organization whose release of thousands of classified US diplomatic 
> cables has enraged Washington.
>
> "I'm not going to comment on that process."
>
> When asked whether he thought Assange was a high-tech terrorist or a 
> whistleblower akin to those who released the Pentagon Papers -- a 
> series of top-secret documents revealing US military policy in Vietnam 
> -- Biden was clear: "I would argue that it's closer to being high-tech 
> terrorist."
>
> Legal pressure has been been building steadily on WikiLeaks and 
> Assange, who is in England fighting extradition to Sweden, where he 
> faces sexual assault allegations.
>
> Assange said Friday it looked "increasingly likely" that the United 
> States would try to extradite him on charges related to the leaked 
> cables.
>
> A report by congressional researchers found the Espionage Act and 
> other US laws could be used to prosecute the 39-year-old Australian 
> hacker, but there is no known precedent for prosecuting publishers in 
> such a case.
>
> A group of US senators early this month introduced a bill to make it 
> easier to target the self-described whistleblowing website by making 
> it illegal to publish names of informants serving the US military and 
> intelligence community.
>
> Media reports suggested that US prosecutors are trying to build a case 
> against Assange on the grounds that he encouraged US Army Private 
> Bradley Manning, currently in US custody, to steal American cables 
> from a government computer and pass them to WikiLeaks.
>
> Assange has denied knowing Manning.
>
> Biden appeared to leave the door open for charges against Assange.
>
> "If he conspired to get these classified documents with a member of 
> the US military, that's fundamentally different than if somebody drops 
> (documents) on your lap here, (saying) 'You're a press person, here is 
> classified material.'"
>
> In a legal case, the United States would seek to show Assange's 
> responsibility for damage to national security, but legal experts have 
> said the path to prosecution is strewn with legal complications, 
> including constitutional free speech protections.
>
> Biden insisted WikiLeaks "has done damage" through its documents dump.
>
> "Look, this guy (Assange) has done things that have damaged and put in 
> jeopardy the lives and occupations of people in other parts of the 
> world," Biden said.
>
> In particular, he acknowledged that among world leaders concerned over 
> the leaks, "there is a desire now to meet with me alone rather than 
> have staff in the room."
>
> © 2010 Agence France-Presse
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