[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Politic worms

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Sat Jan 23 18:04:50 CST 2010


I agree. Transcendentals, as Aristotle called them (unity, truth, goodness,
beauty) are convertible. Human desire is finally the attainment of the
transcendentals.

Thanks for the comment.  --Carl


kim kranich wrote:
> For me, truth and love are two different words for the same experience. They
> are not separate from each other.
> 
> I enjoy News From Neptune.  Thanks forbthe program.
> 
> Kimberlie
> 
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> *From: *"C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>* To: *Peace
> <peace at anti-war.net>* Sent: *Sat, Jan 23, 2010 21:32:01 GMT+00:00* Subject:
> *[Peace] Politic worms
> 
> News from Neptune on UPTV, Fridays 7pm, cable channel 6.
> 
> It's the 20th year for this program, which began as a Saturday morning 
> discussion on local community radio.
> 
> The program begins from the conviction that, if you want to do the right
> thing, VERITAS precedes CARITAS - the truth is more important than love. My 
> favorite theologian, the late Oxford philosopher Herbert McCabe, used to say 
> that holiness was not first of all about goodness, but about truth: if we can
> tell the truth about ourselves and our world, then goodness can take care of
> itself.
> 
> That seems to me right. The best will in the world can do the right thing
> only by accident, in the absence of an accurate analysis of the situation.
> 
> Our program has always been a spontaneous & unrehearsed discussion of the
> news of the week & its coverage by the media - in search of an accurate 
> analysis.
> 
> But the task is not straightforward: Alexander Cockburn, proprietor of the
> best political newsletter on the web, CounterPunch.org, recently remarked -
> correctly it seems to me - "By and large, down the decades, the mainstream 
> newspapers have — often rabidly — obstructed and sabotaged efforts to improve
> our social and political condition."
> 
> Our program's name, “News from Neptune,” honors Noam Chomsky, who to my mind
> has been talking sense about American politics for years. Chomsky has said
> that -- in the US media -- “either you repeat the same conventional doctrines
> everybody is saying, or else you say something true, and it will sound like 
> it’s from Neptune.”
> 
> My discussants on the program for the third week of January, 2010, are Wayne 
> Johnson and Ron Szoke. Our format is to take up to 10 minutes each to talk
> about events of the week, and then take turns to ask one another questions 
> about what's been said.
> 
> This edition was cablecast on January 22nd. On that day in 1521, Emperor
> Charles V, opened the Diet of Worms - in fact a meeting of the parliament, 
> congress or Reichstag of the European Union in a small town on Rhine, but a 
> favorite event for word-play by students of early modern history. Even
> Shakespeare, who dearly loved a pun, couldn't resist: he has Hamlet say, when
> asked where is the body of the man he's just killed, that he's at supper:
> 
> "At supper? Where?" "Not where he eats, but where he is eaten. A certain 
> convocation of politic worms are e'en at him."
> 
> So last week we were supposed to be "vagabonds & outlaws"; this week "politic
>  worms" - gnawing on the body politic...
> 
> This program will be posted on the website <newsfromneptune.com>. I'd
> appreciate receiving your comments. Inshallah, we'll be back next week with 
> another edition, as we have for twenty years.
> 
> Confusion to our enemies. --CGE
> 
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