[Peace-discuss] Democrats arrange huge amount to expand war

E.Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Fri Jul 2 01:34:24 CDT 2010


Damn Good Thing that the central government is funding all those teachers.
It's Building America's Future.  It's for the Kids!

It certainly will require some "education", maybe even re-education, for the 
next
generation to fund, acquiesce to, and participate in the war.

***

Bob Naiman suggested yesterday that Obey (that's his last Name, really.  I 
wonder his nickname is Grovel.) and McGovern (What, Me Govern?) were all 
about being opposed to funding the war... but in the end they seemed to 
admit twas' all in jest and were good little puppies and voted Yea (for the 
record).

Here's how they voted:

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll428.xml

This vote on hr1500 forced passage of HR1493.

 H. Res. 1500:
providing for consideration of the Senate amendments to the bill ( H.R. 
4899) making emergency supplemental appropriations for disaster relief and 
summer jobs for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2010, and for other 
purposes

In case you are interested in the text of HR1500:
The text of H.RES.1500 has not yet been received from GPO
Bills are generally sent to the Library of Congress from the Government 
Printing Office a day or two after they are introduced on the floor of the 
House or Senate. Delays can occur when there are a large number of bills to 
prepare or when a very large bill has to be printed.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
To: "peace discuss" <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 12:15 PM
Subject: [Peace-discuss] Democrats arrange huge amount to expand war


> ["Following the lead of Congressman Jim McGovern, many peace organizations 
> declined during the past half year to put their full energies behind 
> demanding No votes on war funding."  The Democrats continue to co-opt the 
> opposition to the war. --CGE]
>
> Democrats Forced to Cheat to Fund War
> By David Swanson
>
> The Democratic leadership in the House had to resort to an unusual and 
> underhanded tactic to pass war funding Thursday night.
>
> Congress has long tended to pass unrelated measures in combination with 
> war bills, and usually some of these measures, such as funding schools, 
> jobs, veterans care, or disaster relief, provide excuses for some 
> "anti-war" Democrats to vote for the war funding. But including good 
> things with war bills can lead the Republicans to vote No. When they all 
> do that, as they did last June, no more than about 40 Democrats can vote 
> No or the bill fails. Last June, the leadership and the White House were 
> able to threaten and bribe enough Democrats to vote yes on a bill that 
> funded both war and an IMF banker bailout. Only 32 Democrats voted No. On 
> Thursday the House leadership couldn't do that because over 40 Democrats 
> refused to be bought off. In fact, at least 51, and reportedly 80 to 90 
> had committed to voting No.
>
> In theory, this should have resulted in separating the pig of war funding 
> from the lipstick of domestic spending. Both would then, in theory, have 
> easily passed the House as separate bills, with the domestic spending 
> facing an uncertain fate in the Senate as long as the leadership over 
> there keeps the filibuster rule in place. It would also have forced the 
> Democratic leadership to pass the war funding with more Republican votes 
> than Democratic.
>
> THE SELF-EXECUTING RULE
>
> But that's not what happened. Instead the Democratic Leadership produced 
> something called a self-executing rule. Typically, the House will vote on 
> a rule for how a bill will be voted on, vote on amendments if the rule 
> permits any, and then vote on the bill. In this self-executing rule, the 
> bill was to be considered passed if at least one amendment to it was 
> approved. Otherwise it was to be considered dead. Either way, there would 
> be no vote on the bill. There was, however, a vote on the rule. But here's 
> the catch: it isn't considered polite and appropriate to vote against a 
> rule, and Americans are not expected to notice how anyone votes on a rule. 
> It's not a bill, but a procedural matter -- 
> never mind if the procedure is to pass war funding without another vote.
>
> So, we watched Republicans like Ron Paul speak against the war and the 
> rule, other Republicans speak in support of the war and against the rule, 
> and Democrats speak against the war and in support of the rule that would 
> fund it. We saw Democrats, like Congresswoman Maxine Waters, speak in 
> support of the rule that would fund the war on the grounds that she would 
> then get a chance to vote for an amendment to defund the war. Think about 
> that. Rather than blocking war funding, you support it in order to vote 
> for a doomed amendment which if passed would have to be approved by the 
> Senate and the President too. Not a single Democrat -- even those who 
> would vote against the rule -- spoke against it.
>
> In the end 38 Democrats, including very few progressives, voted No on the 
> rule, which passed 215 to 210. That's suspiciously close, and suggests 
> that the leadership permitted those votes but no more.
>
> ESCALATING WAR, CUTTING SOCIAL SECURITY
>
> According to Congressman John Tierney, we now have 88,000 troops and 
> 110,000 contractors in Afghanistan. The $33.5 billion in war funding is to 
> send 30,000 more troops, plus more contractors, to Afghanistan (some of 
> whom are already there pre-funding). This was the vote to fund the 
> escalation that was debated in the U.S. media a half year ago. That 
> passage of time allowed this vote to come in the context of a debate in 
> which almost no one mentioned the word "escalation", no one at all 
> objected to the President having gone ahead with an unfunded escalation, 
> and -- on the contrary -- various congress members from both parties swore 
> they had to "support the troops" and others, such as Republican 
> Congressmen Buck McKeon and Jerry Lewis, asserted their responsibility to 
> obey "our Commander in Chief" as if the first branch of our government is 
> now a branch of the military.
>
> Speaker Nancy Pelosi slipped a surprising measure into a budget that was 
> passed as part of the rule, a measure requiring that the House vote on any 
> proposals -- 
> whatever they may be -- that are proposed by the president's deficit 
> commission, if those proposals are passed by the Senate. As Jane Hamsher 
> immediately pointed out:
>
>     "The commission, co-chaired by Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson, is 
> packed with members who favor the raising the retirement age to 70, means 
> testing, and private accounts. Many also support investing 20% of the 
> Social Security trust fund in the stock market. It's ironic that yesterday 
> Pelosi sent out press releases criticizing John Boehner for expressing the 
> very same positions on cutting Social Security benefits that Jim Clyburn, 
> Joe Biden, and Steny Hoyer have. She's putting this language into the rule 
> in order to deflect responsibility from herself when it comes to the floor 
> for a vote during a lame duck session, since without her approval that 
> could never happen."
>
>
> AMENDMENTS: 162 WANT SOME ROLE FOR CONGRESS
>
> Following the lead of Congressman Jim McGovern, many peace organizations 
> declined during the past half year to put their full energies behind 
> demanding No votes on war funding. Instead, many stressed the introduction 
> of anti-war amendments, arguing that we could get more votes that way. 
> Moving three more congress members to vote against the rule would have 
> sent the strongest message possible, but once that failed, there were four 
> amendments to vote on Thursday night, three of them related to the war. 
> The leadership had a way to handle these as well: take them up late at 
> night, past filing deadlines for newspaper stories.
>
> One was an amendment to eliminate military funding from the bill. This 
> failed 25 to 376 with 22 voting "present."
>
> Another was to limit military funding to withdrawal. This failed by 
> acclamation, and Congressman Anthony Weiner, chairing the proceedings, 
> moved on to the next amendment before anyone requested a count of the 
> vote. So we don't even now what the number of Yes votes was here.
>
> The third amendment, McGovern's, was to require the president to present 
> Congress with 1) a new National Intelligence Estimate on Afghanistan by 
> January 31, 2011 and 2) a plan by April 4, 2011, on "the safe, orderly and 
> expeditious redeployment of U.S. troops from Afghanistan, including a 
> timeframe for the completion of the redeployment." In addition -- and this 
> was a late addition to the amendment strengthening it considerably --  
> Congress would be required to vote by July 2011 "if it wants to allow the 
> obligation and expenditure of funds for Afghanistan in a manner that is 
> not consistent with the president's announced policy of December 2009 to 
> begin to drawdown troops by July 2011." This amendment failed by a vote of 
> 162 to 260.
>
> The 162 included a handful of Republicans and represented a significant 
> number of congress members willing to at least go on record as somewhat 
> favoring minimal involvement for Congress in one of its chief areas of 
> responsibility: war. I say "somewhat" because we don't know how many of 
> the 162 would still have voted Yes if pressured by the leadership not to.
>
> The non-war-related amendment, to fund teachers and disaster relief, 
> passed 239 to 181 with 1 voting "present." This vote, heavily promoted by 
> teachers' unions -- which tended never to mention the war funding --  
> guaranteed passage of the war funding, since the rule required that at 
> least one amendment pass.
>
> THE SENATE AND THE PRESIDENT
>
> The Senate is out of session for the anti-imperial imperial holiday of 
> July 4th. It will have to deal with the House bill, which differs from the 
> Senate version.
>
> The President on Thursday threatened to veto the bill because of an item 
> in one of the two non-war-related amendments. Congress is careful to pay 
> for non-war items with cuts elsewhere, while funding wars on a Chinese 
> credit card. In order to pay for funds to save some teachers from layoffs 
> at US schools, the amendment took away a small fraction of a slush fund 
> used by the Secretary of Education to encourage corporatist approaches to 
> education. Let's hope that, if the Senate doesn't strip out the offending 
> provision for him, our president follows through and blocks an escalation 
> of a war.
>
>
> -- 
>
> David Swanson is the author of the new book "Daybreak: Undoing the 
> Imperial Presidency and Forming a More Perfect Union" by Seven Stories 
> Press.  You can order it and find out when tour will be in your town: 
> http://davidswanson.org/book.
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