[Peace-discuss] Fw: House Stands Firm on Afghanistan Withdrawal Timetable

Sat Jul 3 04:03:49 CDT 2010

I wasn't disagreeing with you, Carl.

Chickens like all birds excrete nitrogenous waste as uric acid as a solid 
rather than urea, which allows the bird
to conserve water.  Uric Acid is brilliantly white, so brightly white that 
it is used as a reflecting substance by fireflies.

The old farmer story goes like this:
Q: "What is that white stuff in chicken shit?
A: "That's chicken shit, too"

The house Dems are trying to make a big deal and a big show of how 
Principled they are because they voted for a various amendments to the war 
funding, but in the end they were nothing more than cowardly chicken shits. 
They want to point out their shiny bright speckles, but that white stuff is 
just chickenshit, too.

***
No doubt our journalists are paid very well for the way they write.  Hayden 
writes glowingly, "Though the war will escalate as a result of the final 
vote, the opponents sent a powerful message to the president and newly 
confirmed Gen. David Petraeus that antiwar pressure will only increase in 
the period ahead..."

Mamma mia, tamadegebazi, and WTF???!!!

Most of these so-called Principled Opponents voted FOR the war budget.

They must think (or realize?) that their constituents are Stupid.

So the next day the Dems come out and say "well we voted for the war but you 
can see clearly how strongly we are against it...see what a strong message 
we are sending?".

And the neocons come out and say "well, we were for the War, but we were 
against the Bill."

The whole thing was cut and dried before the vote, and both heads of the One 
Party Beast knew how it was going to come out in advance, otherwise they 
would not have permitted the vote to go down as it did.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
To: "E.Wayne Johnson" <ewj at pigs.ag>
Cc: "unionyes" <unionyes at ameritech.net>; "Peace-discuss" 
<peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 3:49 PM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: House Stands Firm on Afghanistan Withdrawal 
Timetable

> Now that I don't get...
>
> On 7/3/10 12:10 AM, E.Wayne Johnson wrote:
>> Uric Acid.
>>
>> "You think I'm stupid.", said the Cat.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "C. G. Estabrook" 
>> <galliher at illinois.edu>
>> To: "unionyes" <unionyes at ameritech.net>
>> Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, July 03, 2010 11:04 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: House Stands Firm on Afghanistan 
>> Withdrawal
>> Timetable
>>
>>
>> Nonsense. This is a good example of what was called - when I was growing 
>> up in
>> Virgina - "Whistling 'Dixie'."
>>
>>
>> On 7/2/10 9:56 PM, unionyes wrote:
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <moderator at PORTSIDE.ORG>
>>> To: <PORTSIDE at LISTS.PORTSIDE.ORG>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 02, 2010 9:10 PM
>>> Subject: House Stands Firm on Afghanistan Withdrawal Timetable
>>>
>>>
>>>> House Stands Firm on Afghanistan Withdrawal Timetable
>>>>
>>>> Tom Hayden |
>>>> July 2, 2010
>>>> Published on The Nation
>>>> http://www.thenation.com/article/36993/house-stands-firm-afghanistan-withdrawal-timetable
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> One hundred sixty-two House members, including a large
>>>> majority of Democrats, sent a significant antiwar
>>>> message to President Obama last night, forcing the
>>>> White House to depend for Afghanistan war support on
>>>> the Republicans who want to unseat the Democrats and
>>>> Obama himself in upcoming elections.
>>>>
>>>> Despite claims by punditry that the antiwar movement
>>>> has disappeared, stalwart Representative Barbara Lee
>>>> gained 100 votes for her amendment rejecting $33
>>>> billion for 30,000 new troops already being sent to
>>>> Afghanistan. Seven of her votes were Republicans. The
>>>> measure would have redirected the $33 billion to
>>>> expenses incurred in redeploying the troops out of
>>>> Afghanistan.
>>>>
>>>> More significant numerically, there were 162 votes cast
>>>> for Representative Jim McGovernâ?Ts amendment, co-
>>>> authored by representatives David Obey and Walter
>>>> Jones, which articulated a game plan for ending the
>>>> war. Only a year ago, the same measure was introduced
>>>> as a general and non-binding resolution. This time the
>>>> proposal required, as a condition of funding, an exit
>>>> proposal including a withdrawal timetable, by next
>>>> spring, before the presidentâ?Ts announced plan to
>>>> "begin" withdrawals in July. Further, in response to
>>>> rising pressure to delay withdrawals, the McGovern
>>>> proposal would require another Congressional vote if
>>>> the administration succumbed to pressure from
>>>> Republicans and the military to delay the beginning
>>>> departure date.
>>>>
>>>> Among Democrats, the vote for McGovern was 153-98, with
>>>> nine Republican supporters. Significantly, Speaker
>>>> Nancy Pelosi, who this week predicted a strong
>>>> Democratic push for a "substantial drawdown" by next
>>>> year, voted with McGovern.
>>>>
>>>> Beltway-based peace groups were surprised by the
>>>> outcome. "All in all, we did better than I expected,"
>>>> blogged Paul Kawika-Martin of Peace Action as the
>>>> televised vote rolled across the CSPAN screen.
>>>>
>>>> Though the war will escalate as a result of the final
>>>> vote, the opponents sent a powerful message to the
>>>> president and newly confirmed Gen. David Petraeus that
>>>> antiwar pressure will only increase in the period
>>>> ahead, adding important pressure for the July 2011
>>>> deadline to be maintained and clarified by a timeline
>>>> for completion, as originally proposed by Senator Russ
>>>> Feingold.
>>>>
>>>> The message is sure to reinforce the belief in the
>>>> Karzai administration, the Pakistan government and
>>>> among NATO allies that time is running out, thus giving
>>>> an impetus for accelerating talks with the Taliban.
>>>>
>>>> The escalating offensive in southern Afghanistan will
>>>> continue apace, with uncertain results.
>>>>
>>>> The Taliban may misread the message from Congress,
>>>> however, and overplay their hand. Their strength lies
>>>> in southern Pashtun communities in southern Afghanistan
>>>> and Pakistan, suggesting that their future lies in a
>>>> negotiated power-sharing arrangment with the northern
>>>> tribes and warlords they fought in the civil war nearly
>>>> a decade ago. The McGovern proposal foreshadows a
>>>> scenario of peace diplomacy that stabilizes a deeply
>>>> divided country.
>>>>
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