[Peace-discuss] House Votes Today on Afghan, Pakistan Wars

Tue Jul 27 21:25:00 CDT 2010

Plugging for Tim Johnson is becoming tedious. So is denigrating David Gill. 

I'll bet on Gill's humane qualities any day over Johnson's. I suspect that there's more behind your campaign for Johnson than just his  (recent opportunistic?) war issues  He goes to church and he's against abortion . Does he still believe in the war on terror, which at least until recently he supported? Forget about public health and other issues such as taxes and the economy. 

--mkb

On Jul 27, 2010, at 8:05 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:

> Rep.Johnson voted for the Kucinich-Paul resolution.
> 
> His arrogant Democratic opponent, David Gill, seems to want us to vote for him without telling us how he would vote on war funding. Would he have voted for the Kucinich-Paul resolution?
> 
> Given the consistent lying from Democrats about what they'd do in regard to the war, I can see no reason for people opposed to the war to vote for them in November. Certainly not for David Gill, when he will not even echo Tim Johnson's promise to vote against money for war in the Mideast. --CGE
> 
> 
> On 7/27/10 11:53 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
>> [Note that while we can be pretty confident that Rep. Johnson will
>> vote no on the war money, we have no such assurance, as far as I am
>> aware, that he will support the Kucinich-Paul measure calling for the
>> withdrawal of U.S. forces from Pakistan; another reason to call, using
>> the toll-free number provided below.]
>> 
>> The House of Representatives is scheduled to vote this afternoon on
>> the wars in Afghanistan and Pakistan.
>> 
>> This morning, the Senate version of the Afghanistan war supplemental
>> was brought up in the House under "suspension" rules, which require a
>> 2/3 majority to pass. This expedited procedure is generally used for
>> measures considered "uncontroversial," which is odd, to say the least,
>> since the war in Afghanistan is anything but uncontroversial, with the
>> most recent evidence being the release by Wikileaks of secret
>> documents on the war, which the New York Times reported "offers an
>> unvarnished, ground-level picture of the war in Afghanistan that is in
>> many respects more grim than the official portrayal."
>> [...]
>> If 90% of the Members who voted for the McGovern-Obey-Jones amendment
>> on July 1 vote no this afternoon on the war supplemental, the measure
>> will fail.
>> [...]
>> Also on the House calendar today is H.Con.Res. 301, a "privileged
>> resolution" introduced by Reps. Dennis Kucinich, Bob Filner, and Ron
>> Paul, which invokes the War Powers Act to force a debate and vote on
>> the deployment of U.S. forces in Pakistan.
>> 
>> As Representative Kucinich points out, what U.S. forces are doing in
>> Pakistan has never been authorized by Congress. The 2001 authorization
>> of military force targeted those who planned and carried out the
>> September 11 attacks and those who harbored them. It was not a blank
>> check to attack anyone we don't like, or anyone our friends don't
>> like. U.S. forces in Pakistan are targeting people who did not, as far
>> as we know, plan or participate in the September 11 attacks, and
>> against whom no evidence has been presented that they harbor those who
>> did. Whether one thinks the enterprise worthy or not, U.S.
>> participation in a war against the internal foes of Pakistan has never
>> been authorized by Congress. There's nothing in the 2001 authorization
>> of military force about a barter agreement in which we attack people
>> in Pakistan that the Pakistani government doesn't like in exchange for
>> permission to attack people in Pakistan that we don't like.
>> 
>> You can urge your Representative to vote no on the war supplemental
>> (HR 4899) and yes on Rep. Kucinich's resolution against the presence
>> of U.S. troops in Pakistan (H.Con.Res. 301) by using the toll-free
>> number established by FCNL: 1-888-493-5443.
>> 
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/house-votes-today-on-afgh_b_660770.html
>> 
>> http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/7/27/122924/013
>> 
>> http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/node/658
>> 
>> --
>> Robert Naiman
>> Policy Director
>> Just Foreign Policy
>> www.justforeignpolicy.org
>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
>> 
>> Urge Congress to Support a Timetable for Military Withdrawal from Afghanistan
>> http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/act/feingold-mcgovern
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