[Peace-discuss] House of ill repute
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at illinois.edu
Sat Mar 13 17:37:34 CST 2010
[Swanson's argument is better than Hayden's, it seems to me. --CGE]
March 12 2010
Why Hayden's Wrong, Why Pelosi's Lying
By David Swanson
AfterDowningStreet
Tom Hayden wants peace, but he's sincerely mistaken about how to get it. He
claims that Wednesday's unsuccessful vote to end the war in Afghanistan makes
ending the war less likely, and that the way to end the war is to pass a bill
that would then have to pass the Senate and the President, a bill requiring an
exit strategy, any exit strategy -- it could be "redeployment" to Iran in 2038
or anything else.
I'm not against moving bills forward, even meaningless bills if they send a
helpful message. I'm not against ending the war in a way that leaves the
president in charge of Congress, if that proves the fastest way to end the war
-- even though it leaves us in a state in which more wars are inevitable. I
don't think we're especially likely to force the House to cut off the funding
next month.
But forcing a debate on the war, and forcing congress members to put their names
down on one side or the other, does not make those members more likely to stick
with those positions. It makes them more likely to oppose the wars. Why? Because
it raises public awareness and public pressure. Those who voted to end the war
are now being thanked and rewarded and pressured to vote no on funding what they
just claimed to want to end. Those who voted to keep the war in Afghanistan
going are now being pressured to change that position in a way that they were
not when all was silent. Hayden, of all people, is leaving the public out of his
calculations.
If we are handed an opportunity to -- at least temporarily -- block the funding,
because all the Republicans vote No for some unrelated reason, we will need to
seize that opportunity. It will increase the same dynamic of public involvement.
It will advance a strategy that is one of the most likely to eventually end the
wars. And it will advance an understanding of power dynamics in Washington that
will discourage wars by shifting war powers back away from presidents, something
that will also be needed in the coming months if we are to end the war in Iraq
that too many people naively believe we've already ended.
Those who think that opposing wars should involve, you know, opposing wars,
should build on the recent debate and vote, by joining in upcoming actions
including:
Brown Bag Vigils, and
Peace of the Action.
Pelosi does not sincerely want anything substantive and tends to lie whenever
her lips move. And here's what she says about war and impeachment:
Pelosi: The issue that … bothers me the most is the issue of the Iraq War.
There's so much evidence that there was no reason for us to go into that war at
that time or to go into it period. But to think that thousands of lives have
been lost, lives affected to the tune of hundreds of thousands, the cost in
terms of our military readiness it has not made our military stronger, in terms
of dollars to the treasury, but again most of all loss of lives our precious
treasure on this war and there was really no price to pay for it so . . .
Maddow: Do you regret having taken impeachment off the table?
Pelosi: No, no, I believe that the if there was evidence, if we could have the
evidence to impeach the president then that could come forward. Just because I
say it's off doesn't mean if the evidence is there that something wouldn't go
forward. It's not a question of not knowing where the culpability is, it's what
you can demonstrate and what you can prove. But I do think that those who had a
hand in perpetrating not just going to war but misrepresentations to the
American people - . Every piece of evidence that we have points to the fact that
there was no reason in terms of weapons of mass destruction to go into Iraq….
It's one of the great tragedies.
So it is. And truly tragic as well is to brazenness of it. Pelosi's poodle, John
Conyers, who backed off impeachment at her command, offered a wide and varying
and self-contradictory list of excuses why, but never present among those
excuses was any claim of lacking evidence. Conyers' committee staff spent most
of the relevant years publishing books documenting the evidence. His excuses
were about electoral campaigns and the corporate media and the likelihood of
winning conviction in the Senate.
The level of mendacity in Pelosi's remarks above, her dedication to obeying the
president (articulated just prior to what I've quoted), and her allegiance to
the war machine: this is what we are up against. We will not defeat it without a
massive public movement. We will not generate a massive public movement if we
are afraid of raising the issue, pressing our demands forward, naming names, and
rewarding and punishing elected officials as merited. This is a life and death
struggle, brothers and sisters, and it's not going to be won through fear,
stealth, or timidity.
David Swanson, a Member of the Project Board for Votes for Peace, is the author
of the new book "Daybreak: Undoing the Imperial Presidency and Forming a More
Perfect Union" by Seven Stories Press. You can order it and find out when tour
will be in your town: http://davidswanson.org/book.
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March 12 2010
Congress Votes on the Afghan War
By Tom Hayden
The Nation
A plain reading of yesterday's vote on the Kucinich war powers resolution is
that an overwhelming majority of the House has authorized the Afghanistan war,
including a majority of Democrats. The war now has greater legitimacy. The vote
was 356-65-9.
(If Rep. John Conyers had been present, the dissenting bloc would have been 66,
including just five Republicans. Few members took the option of abstaining.)
Strong Kucinich supporters will feel vindicated that their hero took a lonely
stand and forced the House to a moment of choice. Critics will note that a
dubious war has been legitimized, and that it will be more complicated for those
who voted "aye" to reverse course in the months ahead.
The outcome will make the anti-war forces appear weaker for now than they are,
and appearances do matter.
By contrast in Germany, 100-plus members of the Left Party demonstrated inside
the Bundestag last week against expanding the German troop commitment, and were
thrown out of the parliament for hours. They too lost the vote, but they made
their point to the German people and parliament, drawing a sharp line in German
politics.
As things stand now, most of the same bloc of 65 Congressional dissenters are
likely to vote against $33 billion in funding for the recent troop escalation, a
measure introduced by Rep. Barbara Lee. That means a two-thirds House majority
soon will be voting to fund the escalation. Soon after will come the vote on
funding the war for the next year.
The fact is that peace forces inside and outside of Congress lack sufficient
support to terminate war funding.
Perhaps, therefore, a two-year strategy will receive consideration.
A majority of Democrats already support HR 2404, the exit strategy resolution
being prepared by Rep. Jim McGovern. The measure, which was opposed by the White
House, needs updating and amending. If subject to hearings, McGovern's
initiative might flesh out what the Obama administration has in mind when
planning to "begin" withdrawing by summer 2011. Depending on the formulation,
the McGovern measure might win a Democratic majority and even pass the House, a
signal to Obama that the Democrats are beginning to pull away.
A strategy to amend the funding bills might also win much greater Democratic
support than a straight yes/no vote. None of the possible amendments has been
discussed significantly, but they might include a requirement of all-party peace
talks in Kabul, a deadline for US troop withdrawal, and lifting the secrecy
around Pakistan, among others. McGovern is collaborating with Sen. Russ
Feingold, who tentatively plans to introduce a "flexible timeline for troop
reductions" on the Senate side.
None of this will please the peace movement.
But neither are Obama and the Democrats likely to avoid a growing quagmire in
the next two election cycles, at budget costs reaching trillions of dollars for
Iraq and Afghanistan, and thousands of American lives. Twice the American people
have been manipulated into sending 250,000 troops (cumulatively) into Iraq and
Afghanistan on the pretext of hunting an Al Qaeda which wasn't there. The real
hunt is a secret CIA operation for Taliban and Al Qaeda leaders hidden in the
wilds of Pakistan. If they simply avoid capture, Obama loses, and the spreading
occupation goes on. If bin Ladin is killed (a big if), Obama wins, and the
spreading occupation goes on anyway.
Source: The Nation
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