[Peace-discuss] Fw: UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform
C. G. Estabrook
galliher at illinois.edu
Tue Mar 23 16:33:41 CDT 2010
I think the Obama administration consciously encouraged a manufactured
"health care debate." There was no need for one: there was an obvious
solution, had they wanted it. But (among other things) they needed a
distraction from their unpopular imperial war. They looked at the
Johnson administration and realized that LBJ hadn't adequately masked
his murders. --CGE
Laurie Solomon wrote:
> Focusing on the wars allows us to ignore health care and other
> domestic policies just as focusing on domestic and foreign policies
> allows us to ignore racism , sexism, and religious bigotry. Focusing
> on anything allows us to ignore other things if we so choose to do
> so and elect to exercise that option. However, no one is forcing
> anyone to forgo the option of not ignoring other issues if they
> seriously want to explore and undertake them. It certainly is a
> matter of priorities and what weightings pone wants to give the
> various issues at hand. Again you seem to have the arrogance to
> insist that everyone recognize and abide by your priorities and your
> selections of focal points while denying others the same right to be
> arrogant and insist on others - including you - recognizing and
> abiding by their priorities and selections of focal points.
>
> -------------------------------------------------- From: "C. G.
> Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 9:54
> PM To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com> Cc: "Peace-discuss"
> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw:
> UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform
>
>> The administration's "healthcare reform" - it hardly deserves the
>> name - allows us to ignore the fact that they're killing people far
>> away?
>>
>>
>> Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>> Huh??? I think yr answer was meant for a different email. This
>>> one was about Healthcare Reform! --Jenifer
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 3/22/10, Ricky Baldwin /<baldwinricky at yahoo.com>/*
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com> Subject: Re:
>>> [Peace-discuss] Fw: UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform To:
>>> "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>, "C. G. Estabrook"
>>> <galliher at illinois.edu> Cc: "Peace-discuss"
>>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010,
>>> 9:44 PM
>>>
>>> Well, of course, Johnson's against the war now that there's a Dem
>>> in the White House, like Gill opposed it when the POP held the
>>> Presidential stool. I wouldn't make TOO much of the distinction.
>>>
>>> Pulling out troops is also not the only way to save lives
>>> (although we should support it, too).
>>>
>>> Ricky
>>>
>>> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>>>
>>> --- On *Mon, 3/22/10, C. G. Estabrook /<galliher at illinois.edu>/*
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu> Subject: Re:
>>> [Peace-discuss] Fw: UPDATE: Blue Dogs and Healthcare Reform To:
>>> "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com> Cc: "Peace-discuss"
>>> <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Date: Monday, March 22, 2010,
>>> 9:38 PM
>>>
>>> In the 15th Illinois Congressional district, the Republican
>>> incumbent is to the Left of his Democratic challenger in regard
>>> to killing people in the Middle East.
>>>
>>> Tim Johnson votes against money for Obama's wars, while David
>>> Gill favors an American "presence" (i.e., killing people) in
>>> Afghanistan, etc. --CGE
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