[Peace-discuss] JFP 5/6: Will Obama Say Yes to Afghan Peace Talks?

[C. G. Estabrook]

I think people should look at the proposals clearly:

--on the one hand, a call for a campaign to tell our representatives to defund 
the Obama administration's mass murder in the Middle East;

--on the other, a call for support for a non-binding resolution that will allow 
Congressional representatives to say that they voted "against the war" while 
continuing to vote to fund it - as in the upcoming $33 billion supplemental.

Your estimate of my opinion or Swanson's is not the issue - but it does suggest 
that you realize how indefensible your position is. --CGE


On 5/6/10 6:41 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> Because I value Swanson's opinion in this matter as much as I value yours.
>
> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:38 PM, C. G. Estabrook<galliher at illinois.edu>  wrote:
>> Then why are you promoting this smokescreen resolution for the continuation
>> of
>> the war?  Why not work for an ending to the war via a funding cut-off, as in
>> Vietnam and Nicaragua?
>>
>>
>> On 5/6/10 6:25 PM, Robert Naiman wrote:
>>>
>>> I already get all of Swanson's stuff, multiple times, because I am on many
>>> lists that Swanson posts too. I saw this days ago. Nothing is gained by
>>> sending me a 17th copy of Swanson's stuff.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, May 6, 2010 at 8:09 PM, C. G. Estabrook<galliher at illinois.edu>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> "If they tell you they're voting for a toothless non-binding request for
>>>> an exit time-table, tell them a growing caucus opposing the funding sends
>>>> a
>>>> stronger message and builds toward the ability to actually end the war.
>>>> Tell them the exit strategy approach, last summer, was rightly delayed
>>>> until after the funding vote, and then garnered 138 votes, to which the
>>>> president merely gave a one-finger salute. Let them know that ineffective
>>>> rhetoric is no substitute for action, and that you see through the use of
>>>> this 'timetable' vote as cover for funding an escalation. If they point
>>>> to
>>>> peace organizations that will accept that excuse and only want their
>>>> support for the 'timetable' make clear that those organizations do not
>>>> speak for you."
>>>>
>>>> http://blogs.mayfirst.org/node/495
>>>>
>>>> On 5/6/10 5:28 PM, Just Foreign Policy wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> ... *VIDEO: Urge Congress to End* *the War in Afghanistan * Just Foreign
>>>>> Policy has made a short video to help publicize the McGovern bill and
>>>>> the importance of a timetable for military withdrawal from Afghanistan.
>>>>> http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/video/feingold-mcgovern
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://salsa.democracyinaction.org/dia/track.jsp?v=2&c=IBKcfUpKAeBeCJCtatQl2jrQsLz6IVTa>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>> ...
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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