[Peace-discuss] [Peace] 4th of July: "150 Years of Local Heroes"

[C. G. Estabrook]

It sounds like an important - and helpful - collection.

But it doesn't take a very fine sieve to catch the unnecessary deaths of three 
quarters of a million people.


On 5/10/10 7:02 PM, Stuart Levy wrote:
> On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 03:38:42PM -0500, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> I'm afraid Laurie's right about Lincoln; it took some substantial effort
>> (and selective quotation) to include him in an anti-war float last year.
>
>
> Hey, nobody's right all the time.  That's certainly true of many people
> mentioned in John Nichols' "Against the Beast", the collection of
> American anti-imperialist writings that I mentioned on Sun.  Including
> William Jennings Bryan, whom I hope we'll feature on a poster.
> (I'll make one unless someone else volunteers.)
>
> If we use an ideological sieve so fine that only people whom we ("we")
> entirely agree with can squeeze through, we miss most of what's good in the world.
>
>
>> It's not much problem to find local heroes of the civil rights movement;
>> it's more trouble perhaps to find local heroes of the anti-war movement.
>>
>> At the AWARE meeting last night, someone mentioned the pacifist Dorothy Day
>> (a student at UIUC). Others suggested we interpret "local" widely enough to
>> include Jane Addams, William Jennings Bryan, Eugene Debs, etc.
>>
>> I think it would be wise not to include any living figures, not only to
>> help recover local anti-war history, but also to avoid current debates over what
>> constitutes an anti-war position. --CGE
>
> Yes.
>
>>
>> On 5/10/10 12:37 PM, Laurie Solomon wrote:
>>> Some how Stuart seems to think that Lincoln was anti-war AND anti-racist;
>>> this is a questionable assumption and assertion at best.
>
> Laurie, I wouldn't want to go that far -- but Lincoln did say some things well,
> and worth remembering, that support our cause.
>
>>> Aside from people
>>> like John Lee Johnson and others that I have mentioned in a previous post,
>>> there is Vernon L. Barkstall.
>
> I do very much like the idea of remembering local C-U civil-rights activists.
> Wonder whether CUCPJ would like to do that too.    I don't think they've tried
> to do a 4th of July thing in past years, but this might be a good time to
> be present.
>

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