[Peace-discuss] MKB has forwarded an article... Kagan, PS

Thu May 13 10:35:19 CDT 2010

I have no idea. You might ask Qumsiyeh: Mazin Qumsiyeh <mazin at qumsiyeh.org>. Right-wing Christians (Scalia, Thomas, Roberts) and three "centrists" (Ginsberg, Sodomeyer,now Kagan) may have led him to his statement. He has a right to be suspicious. --mkb

On May 13, 2010, at 12:25 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:

> What's the evidence for six being zionists?
>  --Jenifer
> 
> --- On Wed, 5/12/10, Brussel Morton K. <mkbrussel at comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> From: Brussel Morton K. <mkbrussel at comcast.net>
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] MKB has forwarded an article... Kagan, PS
> To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
> Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Date: Wednesday, May 12, 2010, 5:46 PM
> 
> Good debate. Lessig position on Kagan: Trust her (as we trusted Obama?)…
> She smells ugly to me, smart and unprincipled, like Clinton or Obama, or with the lousy principles, like Clinton or Obama. Maybe that's why Obama has confidence in her. 
> 
> I thought it interesting that Qumsiyeh noticed that with her on the court, there will be six pro-zionists there. 
> 
> A pig in a poke! 
> 
> --mkb
> 
> On May 12, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> 
>> PS 
>> The debate on Kagan's nomination by Greenwald and Lessig continued today on DN!
>> http://www.democracynow.org/2010/5/12/glenn_greenwald_v_lawrence_lessig_a
>>  --Jenifer
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> --- On Tue, 5/11/10, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] M.K.B. has forwarded an article to you from CommonDreams.org: Kagan in Context: Shafting Progressive Values
>> To: "Morton K. Brussel" <mkb3 at mac.com>
>> Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
>> Date: Tuesday, May 11, 2010, 3:49 PM
>> 
>> 
>> That's what makes a horse race, I guess. 
>> 
>> Here's Greenwald again on Rachel Maddow last nite...
>> www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#37074824
>> and (same show) Lawrence Lessig rebutting
>> www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26315908/#37074947
>> which again evens things out pro and con...
>> 
>> Bottom line: The Repubs are raising such a stink against Obama's mainstream nominees that a true progressive wouldn't stand a chance of being confirmed... plus another liberal judge wouldn't move the court to the left anyhow -- it'd still be 4 against 4, with Kennedy still siding w/ the conservatives most of the time. So the Admin's strategy seems to nominate someone who has a chance of making headway w/ Kennedy at least some of the time, persuade him to vote w/ the liberals, and keep the Court from moving any farther to the right than it already has.
>> 
>> Yeah, it sucks, we can agree on that for sure.
>>  --Jenifer
>> 
>> --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Morton K. Brussel <mkb3 at mac.com> wrote:
>> 
>> From: Morton K. Brussel <mkb3 at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] M.K.B. has forwarded an article to you from CommonDreams.org: Kagan in Context: Shafting Progressive Values
>> To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>> Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 8:03 PM
>> 
>> Sorry to disagree. Greenwald demolished Raskins nebulous comments IMO, and Amy tried to find something good by emphasizing, as is her wont,  that Kagan may be good on homosexual issues.  Greenwald took this down, too--mkb
>> 
>> On May 10, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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>>> Greenwald's analysis was harsh, but I tho't both Amy and her other guest, law professor Jamin Raskin neutralized much of his criticism w/ their comments. An interesting exchange, check it out at 
>>> www.democracynow.org/2010/5/10/progressives_divided_over_obamas_nomination_of
>>>  --Jenifer
>>> 
>>> --- On Mon, 5/10/10, Morton K. Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu> wrote:
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>>> From: Morton K. Brussel <brussel at illinois.edu>
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] M.K.B. has forwarded an article to you from CommonDreams.org: Kagan in Context: Shafting Progressive Values
>>> To: mkb3 at mac.com
>>> Cc: peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
>>> Date: Monday, May 10, 2010, 11:26 AM
>>> 
>>> A lively discussion which shows what a flake Kagan is likely to be can be seen on Democracy Now, a debate between Glenn Greenwald  and a defender of Kagan. She's already been chosen by Obama, typical for him. --mkb
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