[Peace-discuss] Race & class

Sun May 16 15:42:05 CDT 2010

Sorry, y're saying that black women should be denied access to voluntary methods of family planning, especially if they're poor and have large families?? And if the best you can muster is a quote from Margaret Sanger.... well, we've come a loooooooooooong way, baby.Can we just agree to disagree on this subject, instead of dragging it into every past, regardless of its relevancy. Thanks.  
 --Jenifer

--- On Sun, 5/16/10, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

From: E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Race & class
To: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>, "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "peace discuss" <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Date: Sunday, May 16, 2010, 2:24 PM

The single most racist act in America is the 
abortion of black babies, the methodical extermination of the "unfit race" that 
the eugenicist Margaret Sanger spoke of as being "human weeds".  Sanger 
believed that eugenicists should "prevent the multiplication of bad stocks" and 
"restrict the propagation of those 
physically, mentally and socially inadequate."

Sanger wrote in response to 
Clarence Gamble's "Suggestion for Negro Project" (1939) that "We do 
not want the word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population, 
and the minister is the man who can straighten that idea out if it ever occurs 
to any of their more rebellious members."  

The modern-day eugenicists still have a goal of 
exterminating the minorities, and they follow Sanger's suggestion in recruiting 
members of the minorities to further their ends.  Today the targeted group 
includes both blacks and hispanics and the eugenicist's agenda is disguised as 
some notion of a "woman's right to choose".

"The most merciful thing that a large family does 
to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the 
New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu>
To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Cc: "peace discuss" <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 12:09 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Race & 
class

> John's quotation is of course correct. The individual class 
backgrounds of SC
> justices don't matter very much.  The question 
is, will they do the will of the
> economic elite in a overwhelmingly 
business-run society?  Obviously, that looks
> better when it's done 
by representatives of other classes, like Sotomayor &
> Obama.  
The institutions of the higher learning that they attended - Princeton,
> 
Yale, Columbia, and Harvard - have as their primary job the education of 
the
> children of the American elite and talented members of other classes 
who will do
> the bidding of that elite.  That's where Sotomayor 
& Obama come from, and they 
> both learnt their lesson well. They 
passed their examinations - fealty to the 
> dominant class - with, so to 
speak, flying colors...  --CGE
> 
> 
> On 5/16/10 10:06 
AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>> As I recall, one of the reasons given 
for Sotomayor's nomination is that she
>> was raised in the projects. 
Here's the wiki entry on that and a bit more (the
>> law is less 
stressful than detective work????):
>>
>> "Sotomayor was 
raised a Catholic
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Catholic>^[3]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-bg052609r-2> and grew
>> up among other Puerto Ricans who 
settled in the South Bronx
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Bronx,_New_York> and East Bronx
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Bronx,_New_York>; she self-identifies as a
>> "Nuyorican 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuyorican>".^[12]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-nyt-witn-09-11> At
>> first, she lived in a South Bronx 
tenement
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apartment_building#United_States_and_Canada>.^[16]
>>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-wapo061609-15> In
>> 1957, the family moved to the 
well-maintained, racially and ethnically mixed,
>> working-class 
Bronxdale Houses housing project
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_housing_in_the_United_States>^[16]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-wapo061609-15> ^[17]
>>  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-time-cover-16> ^[18]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-17> in Soundview
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soundview,_Bronx> (which has at times been
>> considered part of both the 
East Bronx and South Bronx).^[19]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-18> ^[20]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-McKinley-19> ^[21]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-nd-apt-20> Her
>> relative proximity to Yankee 
Stadium
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yankee_Stadium_(1923)> led to her becoming a
>> lifelong fan of the 
New York Yankees
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Yankees>.^[22]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Smith-21> The
>> extended family got together 
frequently^[16]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-wapo061609-15> and
>> regularly visited Puerto Rico during 
summers.^[23]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-mcc060709-22>
>>
>> Sonia was diagnosed with type 1 
diabetes
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_diabetes> at age eight,^[8]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Hoffman-7> ^[20]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-McKinley-19> and
>> began taking daily insulin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insulin>
>> injections.^[24]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-mh052809-23> Her
>> father died of heart problems at age 42, 
when she was nine years old.^[7]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-nyt-mother-6> ^[16]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-wapo061609-15> After
>> this, she became fluent in 
English.^[8]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Hoffman-7> Sotomayor
>> has said that she was first 
inspired by the strong-willed Nancy Drew
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nancy_Drew> book character, and then after her
>> diabetes 
diagnosis led doctors to suggest a different career from detective,
>> 
she was inspired to go into a legal career and become a judge by watching 
the
>> /Perry Mason <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Mason_(TV_series)>/
>> television series.^[8]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Hoffman-7> ^[22]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Smith-21> ^[24]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-mh052809-23> She
>> reflected in 1998: "I was going to 
college and I was going to become an
>> attorney, and I knew that when 
I was ten. Ten. That's no jest."^[
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Smith-21>22
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Smith-21>]
>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sonia_Sotomayor#cite_note-Smith-21>"
>>
>> ^
>>
>> 
--Jenifer
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 5/13/10, John W. /<jbw292002 at gmail.com>/* 
wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: John W. <jbw292002 at gmail.com> Subject: 
Re: [Peace-discuss] Race &
>> class To: "C. G. Estabrook" 
<galliher at illinois.edu> Cc: 
"peace discuss"
>> <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net> Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 9:33 PM
>>
>> A 
big part of this trend toward "diversity" is that the US Supreme Court 
has
>> set it in stone, more or less, in terms of the legal structure. 
Race and
>> gender are protected classes and can elicit greater 
judicial scrutiny. But
>> with only a few very narrow exceptions, class 
(i.e., poverty) has never been
>> considered by the Supreme Court to be 
a protected class worthy of any special
>> legal protection. Hence the 
saying by Anatole France is as pertinent in
>> America as it is just 
about everywhere else: "The law, in its majestic
>> equality, forbids 
all men to sleep under bridges, to beg in the streets, and
>> to steal 
bread - the rich as well as the poor."
>>
>>
>> On 
Thu, May 13, 2010 at 7:28 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu
>> 
</mc/compose?to=galliher at illinois.edu>> wrote:
>>
>> Walter Benn Michaels, "Chav 
chic, and respect the poor" (Le Monde
>> 
diplomatique):
>>
>> ...at a time when class difference in the 
US is as high as it’s been in the
>> last hundred years, we’re being 
urged not to talk about what we never talk
>> about (the inequalities 
produced by capitalism) and to talk lots more about
>> what we always 
talk about (the inequalities produced by racism). Why?
>>
>> 
Well, one answer, of course, is the absolutely central role race and 
racism
>> have played in our history. But it’s not a very good answer. 
The
>> extraordinary inequalities of the last 30 years were not caused 
by racism and
>> the catastrophic consequences of the current crash 
will not be alleviated by
>> anti-racism. Indeed, these days 
anti-racism is as much a part of the problem
>> as it is the solution. 
In every neoliberal society, the response to more
>> inequality has 
been a call for more diversity because the core commitment of
>> 
neoliberalism is that the only inequalities we need to do anything about 
are
>> the ones produced by prejudice.
>>
>> Walter 
Benn Michaels on anti-racism and diversity from "The Trouble With
>> 
Diversity":
>>
>> We would much rather get rid of racism than 
get rid of poverty. And we would
>> much rather celebrate cultural 
diversity than seek to establish economic
>> 
equality.
>>
>> Indeed, diversity has become virtually a 
sacred concept in American life
>> today. No one's really against it; 
people tend instead to differ only in
>> their degrees of enthusiasm 
for it and their ingenuity in pursuing it.
>>
>> There’s no 
reason why people with a certain set of genes ought to be reading
>> a 
certain set of books and thinking of those books as part of their 
heritage,
>> or why, when they read some other set of books, they 
should think of them as
>> part of someone else’s heritage. There are 
just the things we learn and the
>> things we don’t learn, the things 
we do and the things we don’t do.
>>
>> Benn Michaels, from 
The Chronicle of Higher Education:
>>
>> The argument is that 
anti-racism today performs at least one of the same
>> functions that 
racism used to — it gives us a vision of our society as
>> organized 
racially instead of economically — while adding another function —
>> 
it insists that racism is the great enemy to be overcome. But all 
the
>> anti-racism in the world won't take any money away from the rich 
and won't
>> give any of it to the poor.
>>
>> 
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