[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Fwd: yesterday's article on massive racial inequality in wealth

Fri May 21 11:33:49 CDT 2010

I don't think Benn Michaels dismisses racism, blithely or any other way.  He
wants to know how it works in contemporary political discussion.

While of course it exists, in functions in liberal imaginings to turn attention
away from certain other arguments.

On your specific example, the cop who killed Carrington was involved in the
killing of another unarmed citizen who I think was white.  I recall writing
about the case at the time.

On 5/21/10 11:20 AM, Stuart Levy wrote:
> On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:36:06AM -0500, C. G. ESTABROOK wrote:
>> US society is much less racist - and much more unequal - than it was 40
>> years ago.
>>
>> In 1970 the election of a black president was unthinkable, but in that
>> year the distribution of wealth (Gini index) was at its least unequal in
>> the 20th century. Today it's back to where it was in the late 1920s, and
>> the concentration of wealth in fewer and fewer hands is not only continuing
>> but accelerating.
>>
>> "...anti-racism today performs at least one of the same functions that
>> racism used to — it gives us a vision of our society as organized racially
>> instead of economically — while adding another function — it insists that
>> racism is the great enemy to be overcome. But all the anti-racism in the
>> world won't take any money away from the rich and won't give any of it to
>> the poor." [Walter Benn Michaels]
>
> Walter Benn Michaels blithlely dismisses racism, saying for example that
> police treat poor white people as badly as black people.
>
> There are a fair number of low-income white children in this town, but I
> don't remember any of them being killed by police.
>
> We'd be better off seeing race discrimination as a sustaining aspect of class
> difference.
>
>>
>> On 5/21/10 9:47 AM, Ricky Baldwin wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Very interesting article. Good points. It's always good for Americans to
>>> see this kind of discussion and realize we don't do too well when it
>>> comes to this kind of basic economic "fairness," no matter how much the
>>> blowhards talk about the "land of opportunity." Our system just doesn't
>>> serve most people too well - but then, we know that. It's just good to
>>> have the numbers.
>>>
>>> On the numbers, I have to take issue with the "typical" white/black
>>> family stats, though - and not just to be picky with words. I think it
>>> gives a false impression.
>>>
>>> The article doesn't say, but if what's meant is "average" (mean) then it
>>> isn't "typical" at all in an economy with vast inequalities like the kind
>>> described in the article. We can, and do (as the article points out),
>>> have a small number of extremely wealthy people and a huge number of
>>> people essentially left out of that massive accumulation. What that
>>> amounts to is the "average" (mean) is skewed upwards - making it look
>>> like more people are better off than we are.
>>>
>>> "Typical" here could also be median, a.k.a. the middle number if you
>>> arrange all the wealth from highest to lowest, but I doubt it. It seems
>>> too high given the inequality the article describes. Even if so, I'd
>>> argue that if the range of wealth is very wide, then the median isn't
>>> very "typical" either.
>>>
>>> Maybe I'm missing something. I'm not 100% awake yet.
>>>
>>> Ricky
>>>
>>> "Speak your mind even if your voice shakes." - Maggie Kuhn
>>>
>>> --- On *Thu, 5/20/10, Belden Fields /<a-fields at uiuc.edu>/* wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> From: Belden Fields<a-fields at uiuc.edu> Subject: [sf-core] Fwd:
>>> yesterday's article on massive racial inequality in wealth To:
>>> discuss at communitycourtwatch.org Cc: "SFcore"<sf-core at yahoogroups.com>
>>> Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 4:09 PM
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>>>> *From: *Lou Kushnick<loukushnick at mac.com
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>>>> <melanie.e.l.bush at gmail.com
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>>>> <Benjamin.bowser at csueastbay.edu
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>>>> <a-fields at uiuc.edu</mc/compose?to=a-fields at uiuc.edu>>, Marta Cruz
>>>> Janzen<cruzjanz at fau.edu</mc/compose?to=cruzjanz at fau.edu>>, Gail
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>>>> Muirhead <bmuirhead at ccc.edu</mc/compose?to=bmuirhead at ccc.edu>>
>>>> *Subject: **yesterday's article on massive racial inequality in
>>>> wealth*
>>>>
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