[Peace-discuss] Fw: Whites only?

unionyes unionyes at ameritech.net
Sun May 23 09:53:23 CDT 2010


Wayne,

I don't like the Federal government dictating things that restricts people's freedoms either ( seatbelt laws, gun ownership restrictions, drug and prostitution laws, so called " Patriot Act " and Military Commisions Act ), however.

There are some laws and restrictions that federal, state and local governments must enact for the public good.

If Rand Paul's opposition to the 1964 Civil Rights Act was acted upon and repealed, that would mean that there would be SOME business owners who would place " White's Only " signs on the exterior of their businesses, and that racial and ethnic discrimination in hiring would be allowed.

To me this would NOT be a positive step in creating a better society, because in effect this would restrict the rights of minorities to patronize businesses as they choose and sit where there are available seats in a bus or reataurant, etc..

Government in and of itself is NOT the problem, the problem is when citizens no longer control their government and instead private corporate interests do. 

David J.
  
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: E.Wayne Johnson 
  To: John W. 
  Cc: Peace-discuss 
  Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 6:12 AM
  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Whites only?


  Libertarians dont want the federal government telling local private businesses what to do.  

  Libertarians reject racism, especially government enforced racism.

  On the one hand we have the elitist-run state masquerading as do-gooders fighting the "never-ending battle against racism". 

  On the other hand we have lovers of liberty being accused of racism because they dont like the iron fist of the authoritarians telling them how they ought to run their lives.

  The fact that libertarians tend to be white and male makes them an easy target for (false) allegations of racism and sexism.  The white male genotype may indeed embody some tendency toward libertarianism but that doesnt make them racist.

  Libertarians dont want the government dictating anything to them not already specifically allocated by the constitution and its amendments.  They dont like unconstitutional wars.  Racism is also unconstitutional as well as crosswise with the libertarian doctrines embodied in the 1776 Declaration.

  Those who are calling libertarians racist are relying upon ignorance to support their notions.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John W. 
    To: E.Wayne Johnson 
    Cc: Jenifer Cartwright ; Peace-discuss 
    Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 5:11 PM
    Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Whites only?




    On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 4:00 AM, E.Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag> wrote:

     
      Jennifer,
      I think this is just plain silly and I am disappointed 
      that people get sucked into this wave of hysterical
      thinking that Stossel of all people, and Rand Paul are
      racist because they are Libertarian.

      It doesnt make any sense at all and it should be
      an embarrassment to make this sort of unwarranted accusation.

      The strangest thing about race baiting is that there are
      willing participants ready to chase the bait.

      EWJ

    What would be the reason, then, EWJ, why libertarians would want to exempt businesses from the various pertinent civil rights acts?  Who exactly would the businesses be wanting to exclude or discrimate against?



        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Jenifer Cartwright 
        To: Peace-discuss 
        Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 11:49 AM
        Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: Whites only?


              You'll all want to sign this, and to $upport Color of Change as well -- they are a force to reckon with! 
               --Jenifer

              --- On Sat, 5/22/10, James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org <no-reply at colorofchange.org> wrote:


                From: James Rucker, ColorOfChange.org <no-reply at colorofchange.org>
                Subject: Whites only?
                To: "Jenifer Cartwright" <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
                Date: Saturday, May 22, 2010, 10:02 AM


                            Fox's Stossel: Businesses should be able to discriminate. "It should be their right to be racist." 
                             

                            Help us hold FOX accountable now: 

                             
                           
                     
                Dear Jenifer, 

                On Wednesday, Rand Paul, the GOP’s US Senate candidate for Kentucky repeated his claim that a central piece of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 was wrong, and that businesses should be free to discriminate against whomever they please.1 Paul and his supporters don’t seem to care that without federal intervention, Black people might still be second-class citizens in many aspects of American life: where we eat, where we work, even where we live. 

                Then, on Thursday, FOX anchor John Stossel went even further, calling for the section of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 that applies to business to be repealed.2 And he’s refused to back down. 

                While Paul may have started this outrage, he can be taken care of at the ballot box — FOX News can’t. 

                Stossel’s position is an affront to Black America and everyone in this country who believes in racial progress. It’s one thing to be a candidate with backwards views. It’s another to be employed by a supposed news network and to use that platform to push hateful ideas that our nation repudiated decades ago. 

                It’s time that FOX drop Stossel. If people like you stand up in huge numbers and FOX does not act, it will be clear that FOX stands with Stossel and his values — and we'll go directly after the network with a public campaign unlike anything we’ve pursued to date. 

                Can you add your voice to the call to fire Stossel? And please ask your friends and family to do the same. It takes only a moment — just click below: 

                MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "act.colorofchange.org" claiming to be http://www.colorofchange.org/stossel/?id=2143-1141418 

                FOX has a history of providing a platform for bigoted views and race-baiting. Most recently you helped us hold FOX accountable by stripping Glenn Beck of more than 100 of his advertisers, after Beck called President Obama a “racist” with a “deep-seated hatred for white people.”3 

                But Stossel has arguably gone beyond Beck, echoing segregationist arguments from the Jim Crow era: 

                "It’s time now to repeal that part of the law because private businesses ought to get to discriminate. And I won’t ever go to a place that’s racist and I will tell everybody else not to and I’ll speak against them. But it should be their right to be racist." 

                Stossel went on to argue something that history has disproved time and again — that private business will do the right thing, without being compelled by laws, because no one would patronize a business that discriminates. It’s a blind belief in market fundamentalism that just isn’t in sync with reality. In the '60s, white-owned businesses that allowed Blacks as customers lost business. Market forces actually perpetuated discrimination; they didn’t combat it. Simply put: segregation would still be active in parts of this country if government hadn’t stepped in. 

                And recent history has shown that the public accommodations section of the Civil Rights Act is still needed. In 1994, it was used to hold Denny’s Restaurants accountable, after the chain repeatedly refused to seat Black customers.4 Just last year, it was used to go after a Philadelphia pool that prevented Black children from swimming there.5 

                It’s time for FOX News to make a choice. Are they going to give Stossel a platform to revive dangerously outdated perspectives? Or will they move with the rest of the nation into the 21st century? Please call on FOX News to fire John Stossel. And once you do, please ask your friends and family to do the same: 

                MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "act.colorofchange.org" claiming to be http://www.colorofchange.org/stossel/?id=2143-1141418 

                Thanks and Peace,

                -- James, Gabriel, William, Dani, Milton and the rest of the ColorOfChange.org team
                   May 22nd, 2010

                Help support our work. ColorOfChange.org is powered by YOU -- your energy and dollars. We take no money from lobbyists or large corporations that don't share our values, and our tiny staff ensures your contributions go a long way. You can contribute here:

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                References: 

                1. “Rand Paul On ‘Maddow’ Defends Criticism Of Civil Rights Act, Says He Would Have Worked To Change Bill,” Huffington Post, 5-20-10 
                http://act.colorofchange.org/go/246?akid=1465.394109.LrvSHS&t=7 

                2. “Stossel calls for repeal of public accommodations section of Civil Rights Act,” Media Matters, 5-20-10
                http://act.colorofchange.org/go/247?akid=1465.394109.LrvSHS&t=9

                3. “Beck’s UK broadcast runs without ads; over 100 companies have ditched Beck,” Jack and Jill Politics, 2-16-10
                http://act.colorofchange.org/go/248?akid=1465.394109.LrvSHS&t=11 


                4. “Denny’s Restaurants to Pay $54 Million in Race Bias Suits,” 5-25-94
                http://act.colorofchange.org/go/251?akid=1465.394109.LrvSHS&t=13

                5. “Justice Department Files Lawsuit Against Huntingdon Valley, Pennsylvania, Country Club Alleging Discrimination,” US Department of Justice press release, 1-13-10
                http://act.colorofchange.org/go/252?akid=1465.394109.LrvSHS&t=15

                Additional:

                “Dancing with the Devil,” ColorOfChange.org, 3-14-07
                http://act.colorofchange.org/go/249?akid=1465.394109.LrvSHS&t=17

                Summary on FOX News and coverage relating to Black Americans
                http://act.colorofchange.org/go/250?akid=1465.394109.LrvSHS&t=19
             


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