[Peace-discuss] Help the Palestinians. Go See This Movie

Tue Nov 9 12:14:35 CST 2010

Doubtful we'd come anywhere near to breaking even, if we rented The Art. Fine w/ me if a group/several groups will sponsor BUDRUS, provide a venue, take care of screening rights, etc.  --Jenifer

--- On Tue, 11/9/10, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Help the Palestinians. Go See This Movie
To: naiman.uiuc at gmail.com
Cc: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Date: Tuesday, November 9, 2010, 10:05 AM

Of course the JCS program will sponsor it. It doesn't actually require them to do anything to help the Palestinians, but they can pretend that they are on their side, hopefully without provoking an unpleasant response from the Jewish Community Relations Council.

From: Robert Naiman <naiman.uiuc at gmail.com>
To: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
Cc: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>; Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 9:55:26 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Help the Palestinians. Go See This Movie

 Another approach would be to try to rent the Art for a single showing of Budrus. 

Would anyone be interested in pursuing this? Perhaps we can get the Committee on Jewish Culture and Society to co-sponsor. It is, after all, an Israeli film. :)

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:44 AM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:

Doubtful that The Art will show this, tho' AWARE Films might take it on (after we show STANDING ARMY, if ever). I might be up for Bob's suggestion if carpools form: 

"How about a Budrus road trip to Chicago? We could look for a showing on Saturday  afternoon the 20th, take a carload or two, go up and come back on the same day."
 --Jenifer

--- On Tue, 11/9/10, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org> wrote 

To me, the key phrase here is this:

"Calling for non-violence when one is not standing by the non-violent"

Because precisely what I am calling for is "standing by the
non-violent." That is why I am trying to get as many Americans as
possible to see the movie "Budrus" - a small but feasible and
important way of "standing by the non-violent" is to learn their
stories, and someone has gone to the trouble of packaging a bunch of
those stories in a particularly accessible form - a form that a
Washington Post reporter called "riveting" and "a sure-fire
crowd-pleaser," and former AIPAC staffer M.J. Rosenberg called a
"totally engaging" story of "regular people" who "take their fate into
their own hands." It seems to me that trying to take advantage of such
an opportunity is a minimum thing that one can do.

I had an exchange with the Art Theater guy. He is fairly skeptical but
promised he would consider
 it, probably not in the near term.

Meanwhile, the film is showing at Facets Multimedia in Chicago from
Nov 19 - Nov 27.

How about a Budrus road trip to Chicago? We could look for a showing
on Saturday  afternoon the 20th, take a carload or two, go up and come
back on the same day.

On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 9:04 AM, David Green <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Max Ajl, at the Jewbonics website, has written quite a bit about the "double
> standard" regarding tactics, including recently:
>
> "Since “targeted” murders are illegal, one would expect outcry. One would
> expect it, but it never comes. Again, compare “targeted assassinations”
> of the resistance when they are simply going about their business in their
> own land versus “targeted
 assassinations” of illegal settlers in the West
> Bank undoubtedly carrying out war crimes. Or, actually compare the
> response, especially on the liberal left: hand-wringing about the barbarity
> of one set of killings, quietude about another."
>
> http://www.maxajl.com/?p=4400
>
> Also, http://www.maxajl.com/?p=3574
>
> "Calling for non-violence when one is not standing by the non-violent is an
> attempted affirmation of purity, nothing more. Gandhi and King stood on the
> front lines of their efforts, whether or not they were correct (Michael
> Neumann has shown fairly persuasively that as practical matters both King
> and Gandhi’s efforts were failures). They were embedded organically in the
>
 social movements they sought to influence."
>
>
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> <MailScanner has detected a possible fraud attempt from "mc" claiming to be peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> Sent: Mon, November 8, 2010 11:14:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Help the Palestinians. Go See This Movie
>
> Seriously, Bob, I am quite interested in non-violent action and positively
> detest violent action.
> I am repulsed by the notion of violence almost as much as I am by the threat
> thereof.
>
> But, I perceive that the concept of any captive people being freed from an
> occupation
 by nonviolent
> action is ridiculous.
>
> Hey!  Mister Shark!  I'm being nice and non-violent.  Would you like to spit
> my leg out now?  I'm going to be late for Oprah if you don't let me go real
> soon.
>
> The only problem with your suggestion (as I see it), Bob, is that it fails
> to take into
> account the characteristics of sharks, the theoretical fundamentals of
> communication with sharks, and the characteristics of ostensibly bitable
> appendages, among other things, perhaps...
>
> However, other than that, I am sure that Palestine can be freed quickly and
> the whole world can participate in a historic rewrite of the future - at
> home, on the couch, in front of their TV sets, when this movie comes out on
> DeeVeeDee.
>
>
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>
>> If many Americans see the movie Budrus, about the successful
>> nonviolent resistance of Palestinians and Israelis against the route
>> of the Israeli "separation barrier" and its confiscation of
>> Palestinian land in the West Bank village of Budrus, it could lead to
>> concrete changes in U.S. policy that would lead to real improvement in
>> the ability of Palestinians in the West Bank to free themselves from
>> the occupation by nonviolent
 action.
>>
>>
>> http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-naiman/help-the-palestinians-go_b_780609.html
>>
>> --
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