[Peace-discuss] The Pope...

[Corey Mattson]

Carl - I think I found where you're quoting from and don't agree with your interpretation of it.  It says that the Pope has been criticized by even church officials on his view that monogamous couples should not use condoms to avoid disease. It doesn't mention how many church officials. Just before this statement, the article says that the Pope did not mention couples where one spouse is infected, mentioning only the case of male prostitutes. (BTW, I support any move toward condom use, but of course for everybody, not just males and male prostitutes. Didn't want to give the wrong impression.)


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On Nov 20, 2010, at 4:59 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:

> As the article points out, church officials have accepted  "condom use for ... couples [with an HIV+ spouse] to protect the uninfected spouse from transmission."  The pope's remarks will reinforce that opinion. 
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> On 11/20/10 4:40 PM, Corey Mattson wrote:
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>> Huh...Surprising. Like Carl implies, it looks like the Church can permit condom use when it doesn't directly impede procreation. So tell me if I got the Pope's view wrong: Condoms used to stop diseases are fine, only when the sexual act in which they're used cannot result in pregnancy. This is surprising, since someone opposed to homosexuality could easily argue that allowing for condom use among homosexual males is also promoting sex that does not result in procreation. Like everything coming from the Vatican, it seems a little convoluted.
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>> Corey
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 20, 2010, at 1:56 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
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>>> ...was making the fairly obvious point that it's better not to risk the spread of disease. 
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>>> His comment attracts notice only because earlier popes had disapproved of condoms for birth control.
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>>> I think it's fair to say that the pope doesn't approve of homosexual acts among adult males.
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>>> On 11/20/10 1:32 PM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
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>>>> Omg, color me shocked reading the Pope's stance on the use of condoms for male prostitutes until I realized that once again, this benefits ONLY males (double duty this time, ya might say). So the pope is okay w/ homosexuality so long as it's limited to ADULT males?? Any chance that the Christian right and tea-baggers will follow suit, do ya suppose??
>>>> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20101120/ap_on_re_eu/eu_pope_condoms
>>>>  --Jenifer
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