[Peace-discuss] More from the Pipes file

Jenifer Cartwright jencart13 at yahoo.com
Tue Oct 12 10:04:46 CDT 2010


Omg, unbelievable... and enlightening: Pipes draws parallels betw the atrocities of WW II and present day Israel-Arab relations... but somehow the Arabs have become... the Nazis!!! I cannot get my head around this: 1) his conclusions (I'm sure he's got company on this), and 2) that I've been totally unaware of this kind of thinking!!!  --Jenifer 

--- On Tue, 10/12/10, David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com> wrote:

From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Peace-discuss] More from the Pipes file
To: "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 12, 2010, 9:37 AM

In a recent letter in the N-G, in response to liberal Zionist Urbana councilcreature David Gehrig's feigned concern with Islamophobia from Cal Thomas, I wrote that we should be more concerned about "mainstream" Islamophobia, including that promoted by local Jewish institutions. The sponsors for the Pipes event testify to that. If the more "respectable" people at the Program for Jewish Culture and Society (Matti Bunzl, Bruce Rosenstock, Michael Rothberg) object to Pipes, let them publicly say so, or forever hold their sanctimonious and cowardly tongues about racism, hate, and "Holocaust memory." The same goes for Gehrig--let him flaunt his pathetic liberal ACLU cajones with a few sharp words for the Pipester. It will never happen.
 
Here's an item from my files:
 

Daniel Pipes’ Acrimonious Remarks Embarrass Organizers of Portland Panel on “Healing Words” 
   
By Elaine Kelley, from Northwest News, reprinted in Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 2001. 
   
Pipes is well-known for his hawkish views and inflammatory statements. He recently angered Middle East peace advocates in his April 25 National Post commentary “Being nice won’t help Israel,” in which he asserts that Israel must “convince Palestinians not of its niceness but its toughness,” arguing that the more flexibly Israel behaved, the more “Palestinians smelled blood and became enraged at the very existence of the Jewish state.” 
  
Early in his comments Pipes had remarked, “It is deeply unfortunate that Ateek compares the Germans’ treatment of the Jews to Israel and the Palestinians.” Using innuendo, Pipes compared the final fate of the Germans after WWII with what Palestinians may have to succumb to in the future: “When the Germans lost World War I they came out with a sense of grievance and felt stabbed in the back; but when they were thoroughly destroyed in World War II they came out of that with something modern and new. It’s time for Arabs to move on.” 
  

What Israel should do, he added, is “respond with force. Punish those that would hurt [Israel], and their ambitions to do so will fail.” Asserting that “Arab people live in some of the worse conditions in the world, without freedom to travel or modern media,” he blamed those conditions on the Arabs’ “political obsession with Israel.” 


      
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