[Peace-discuss] Is there any question who's the war party?

C. G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Wed Apr 6 11:57:17 CDT 2011


Come on, Bob. Senate Democrats had a chance to vote against what everyone admits 
was an unconstitutional act of war and chose instead to vote for it. Just as 
they could have cut off funds for Bush's war (it only took 41 votes) and chose 
not to do it.

I'm sure when the Socialists voted for war credits in Germany in 1914, it 
"wasn't good a indicator of where people stood." Maybe they were waiting for a 
"clean" vote.


On 4/6/11 11:45 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
> The analysis of the peace folks watching this in Washington is that
> this vote wasn't a good indicator of sentiment in the Senate. Senator
> Lugar, a Republican who has been arguably the most prominent
> Republican critic both of the war in Libya and the decision to launch
> it without Congressional authorization, voted with the 90 to table,
> not with the 10. The question on the floor was attaching language
> about war powers to a small business bill.
>
> I'm not against what Senator Paul did; it's more than anyone else has
> managed to do on the floor of either body so far. But this particular
> vote is not a good indicator of where people stand. Senator Webb, like
> Senator Lugar (though not as prominently) has been very critical.
>
> Hopefully, Paul or Lee or others will come back with something else
> that will allow a more clean vote ("clean" in the sense of not being
> entangled with other issues.)
>
> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:26 PM, C. G. Estabrook<galliher at illinois.edu>  wrote:
>> 10 GOP Senators Vote to Oppose Libya Intervention
>> Posted: 05 Apr 2011 03:29 PM PDT
>>
>> Senator Rand Paul’s resolution opposing President Obama’s use of force in
>> Libya gained the support of 10 Republican senators — and not a single
>> Democrat.
>>
>> The resolution was the same as a quote from President Obama when he was a
>> Senator and presidential candidate:
>>
>> “The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally
>> authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an
>> actual or imminent threat to the nation.”
>>
>> The resolution was defeated by a motion to table. The vote was 90-10.
>>
>> Republican Senators voting to oppose US intervention in Libya were:
>> Collins (R-ME), DeMint (R-SC), Ensign (R-NV), Johnson (R-WI), Lee (R-UT),
>> Moran (R-KS), Paul (R-KY), Sessions (R-AL), Sowe (R-ME), Toomey (R-PA)
>>
>> Where are the antiwar Democrats?
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