[Peace-discuss] Is there any question who's the war party?

[Robert Naiman]

I know that you're not educable on this. I'm just trying to stop you
from misinforming other people.



On Wed, Apr 6, 2011 at 11:55 AM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:
> Come on, Bob. Senate Democrats had a chance to vote against what everyone
> admits was an unconstitutional act of war and chose instead to vote for it.
> Just as they could have cut off funds for Bush's war (it only took 41 votes)
> and chose not to do it.
>
> I'm when the Socialists voted for war credits in Germany in 1914, it "wasn't
> good a indicator of where people stood." Maybe they were waiting for a
> "clean" vote.
>
> On 4/6/11 11:45 AM, Robert Naiman wrote:
>>
>> The analysis of the peace folks watching this in Washington is that
>> this vote wasn't a good indicator of sentiment in the Senate. Senator
>> Lugar, a Republican who has been arguably the most prominent
>> Republican critic both of the war in Libya and the decision to launch
>> it without Congressional authorization, voted with the 90 to table,
>> not with the 10. The question on the floor was attaching language
>> about war powers to a small business bill.
>>
>> I'm not against what Senator Paul did; it's more than anyone else has
>> managed to do on the floor of either body so far. But this particular
>> vote is not a good indicator of where people stand. Senator Webb, like
>> Senator Lugar (though not as prominently) has been very critical.
>>
>> Hopefully, Paul or Lee or others will come back with something else
>> that will allow a more clean vote ("clean" in the sense of not being
>> entangled with other issues.)
>>
>> On Tue, Apr 5, 2011 at 9:26 PM, C. G. Estabrook<galliher at illinois.edu>
>>  wrote:
>>>
>>> 10 GOP Senators Vote to Oppose Libya Intervention
>>> Posted: 05 Apr 2011 03:29 PM PDT
>>>
>>> Senator Rand Paul’s resolution opposing President Obama’s use of force in
>>> Libya gained the support of 10 Republican senators — and not a single
>>> Democrat.
>>>
>>> The resolution was the same as a quote from President Obama when he was a
>>> Senator and presidential candidate:
>>>
>>> “The president does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally
>>> authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping
>>> an
>>> actual or imminent threat to the nation.”
>>>
>>> The resolution was defeated by a motion to table. The vote was 90-10.
>>>
>>> Republican Senators voting to oppose US intervention in Libya were:
>>> Collins (R-ME), DeMint (R-SC), Ensign (R-NV), Johnson (R-WI), Lee (R-UT),
>>> Moran (R-KS), Paul (R-KY), Sessions (R-AL), Sowe (R-ME), Toomey (R-PA)
>>>
>>> Where are the antiwar Democrats?
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Robert Naiman
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