[Peace-discuss] Fw: [socialistdiscussion] Fw: [londonlrc] Re: Tripoli rises

[David Johnson]

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> For info...
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> From: Mike Calvert
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> Subject: RE: [londonlrc] Re: Tripoli rises
> Sent: 27 Aug 2011 17:57
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> The following is a translation from the French newsweekly, Workers News, 
> or Informations Ouvrieres. I am sure that it is pretty good.
>
> “That Sarkozy is congratulating himself on his great feat of arms in Libya 
> should not surprise anyone. But to hear everybody from the Socialist Party 
> to the NPA, via the CP, Melenchon’s Left Party, etc. all singing the 
> praises of the “victory for democracy and freedom” is staggering to say 
> the least.
> For our part, allow us to be more clear-headed.
> “The miracle” of the fall of Tripoli “is no accident”, writes Le Figaro, 
> pointing out that this outcome is the result of “a strategy prepared a 
> long time ago by (…) France, Great Britain, the United States and its 
> allies, under the military umbrella of NATO”.
> Again according to Le Figaro, NATO’s air forces carried out 7,500 air 
> strikes. But this was not enough! It was also necessary to deploy “the 
> allies’ intense action by land (…). French and British special forces as 
> well as US, Qatari and UAE military advisors were deployed secretly on 
> Libyan soil to carry out covert actions.” They also “armed the rebellion” 
> and trained “a force of a thousand or so men, many of whom held dual 
> nationality and had returned from the United States”.
> We in the POI have never given our support to the Gaddafi regime. We will 
> not mourn his downfall. But all this does not fool us. The very same 
> Sarkozys, Camerons and all the others who just a few years ago were 
> welcoming Gaddafi as their friend decided to unleash that deluge of fire 
> on Libya in order to drive him from power and replace him with members of 
> his own government, rechristened at the last minute the “National 
> Transitional Council”. This does not fool us.
> The Independent Workers Party (POI), which from day one condemned the 
> military intervention in Libya, will never place itself “under NATO’s 
> umbrella”. Because NATO’s umbrella is the umbrella of the capitalists’ 
> interests, and theirs alone.
> Under all circumstances, the oppressed and exploited must defend the 
> independence of their organisations. This means in every area. Thus in 
> France, at a time when the “Intersyndicale” [a co-ordinating committee of 
> the French trade union confederations] under the direct control of the 
> CFDT is calling for a “dialogue” to make reducing the public deficits a 
> “priority”, we should remember this fact: the deficits are only getting 
> bigger (see page 6) due to the paying of interest on the debt on the one 
> hand, and the tax and social contribution exemptions given to the bosses 
> on the other. The labour movement does not have to enter into any 
> discussion or “dialogue” on reducing the public deficits or servicing the 
> debt.
> The labour movement’s place is neither under NATO’s umbrella nor under the 
> parasol of the IMF or the European Central Bank. Not one cent towards 
> servicing the debt! Not one cent towards plugging the deficits! On this 
> basis, and in full independence, the Independent Workers Party calls for 
> the preparation of the internationalist meeting on 1 October in Paris. 
>  (1)”
>
> (1) If anyone is in any doubt about the relationship between the two 
> questions, here is another quote from Le Figaro: “Before the start of the 
> insurrection, Libya, holder of the biggest reserves of black gold in 
> Africa and the continent’s fourth biggest producer, exported 80 percent of 
> its oil to Europe, in particular to Italy and France. Specialists are 
> hoping that gas and oil exports, which today have practically ground to a 
> halt, will gradually resume to reach half their normal level next year, 
> and 100 percent in 2013.” Phew! Business is getting back to normal. Down 
> with the sacred union!
> Mike
>
> From: londonlrc at yahoogroups.com [mailto:londonlrc at yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of GERALD DOWNING Sent: 27 August 2011 08:43 To: 
> londonlrc at yahoogroups.com Subject: [londonlrc] Re: Tripoli rises
>
>
> And reports of some who did not know how to celebrate. Radio 4 now report 
> on the killings of "anyone of sub-saharan appearace, almost from the 
> beginning of this revolution": Some racist revolution we have here!: 
> Extact from WSWS website
>
> Meanwhile, other reports laid bare war crimes carried out by NATO and its 
> local agents on the ground in Tripoli. Both the Associated Press and 
> Reuters news agencies documented a massacre perpetrated against Gaddafi 
> supporters in a square adjacent to the presidential compound that was 
> stormed and looted on Tuesday.
> “The bodies are scattered around a grassy square next to Moammar Gadhafi’s 
> compound of Bab al-Aziziya. Prone on grassy lots as if napping, sprawled 
> in tents. Some have had their wrists bound by plastic ties,” AP reported.
> “The identities of the dead are unclear but they are in all likelihood 
> activists that set up an impromptu tent city in solidarity with Gadhafi 
> outside his compound in defiance of the NATO bombings.”
> AP said that the grisly discovery raised “the disturbing specter of mass 
> killings of noncombatants, detainees and the wounded.”
> Among the bodies of the executed the report added were several that “had 
> been shot in the head, with their ha
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