[Peace-discuss] Would AWARE like to invite Kathy Kelly to doanother event while she's here, 2/18-19?

Tue Feb 1 15:43:25 CST 2011

hey all:

sam and i can contact both brian terrell and the mennonite church to see if
days around kathy kelly's visit work. we will let you know what's up.

peace
allison

On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 12:10 PM, C. G. Estabrook <galliher at illinois.edu>wrote:

> Without taking on the larger and more important question, one might say
> that "non-violence ended the Vietnam War," in the sense that it was the
> mutiny of the US conscript army in Vietnam - its refusal to "fight" - that
> led to the US withdrawal.
>
> Non-violence in that sense seems to be bringing down the Egyptian
> government at the moment.
>
> The theme of Trotsky's History of the Russian Revolution (1932) may be said
> to be, Which way will the army go?
>
>
>
> On 2/1/11 5:15 AM, E.Wayne Johnson wrote:
>
>> I would certainly agree with Kathy Kelly that any one who pays the federal
>> income tax is undeniably an accomplice to murder and worse.
>>
>> However, if I had the opportunity, I would want to ask her if non-violence
>> ended the Vietnam War.
>>
>> Since she seems to approach the matter of pacifism from the standpoint of
>> Christian theology, I would ask if Jesus drove the "thieves" from the temple
>> with logic and pacifist rhetoric.  I would also seek an explanation of
>> Matthew 11.12 and Psalm 137.9  .
>>
>> History seems to say that it was the INA that broke the back of British
>> resolve in India, not the methods of Gandhi (alone?).  Perhaps the message
>> of Peace is most effective when served up with a side order of explosives
>> and incendiary devices and a open can of fresh whup-ass?
>>
>> Peace.
>> Or Else.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stuart Levy" <slevy at ncsa.illinois.edu
>> >
>> To: <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>> Cc: "Allison McGillivray" <akmcgilli at gmail.com>; <
>> stjudecatholicworker at gmail.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 2:42 PM
>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Would AWARE like to invite Kathy Kelly to
>> doanother event while she's here, 2/18-19?
>>
>>
>>  Peaceable people,
>>>
>>> As you've likely heard, Kathy Kelly will be in town on
>>> Friday, Feb. 18th, to speak at the YMCA Friday Forum that noon
>>> ("Prophetic Voice/Public Witness: Searching for a Non-Violent Approach").
>>>
>>> She'll be in town for a couple of days -- maybe Thursday evening
>>> through Saturday evening.   Kasey Umland of the Y, planning her
>>> itinerary,
>>> wrote to ask whether we (AWARE or whoever) would like to invite her
>>> to do something else while she's here.  (!!!)
>>>
>>> Sounds cool to me.  We might see whether she could speak
>>> on Fri. evening 2/18, or on Sat. afternoon 2/19, say.   Ideas?
>>>
>>> One: Brian Terrell, of an Iowa Catholic Worker group,
>>> visited Afghanistan in December with a Voices for Creative Nonviolence
>>> group
>>> which included Kathy Kelly.  (He's a friend of Sam and Allison's.)
>>> Brian had already agreed in principle to come and speak about what
>>> they'd seen, about the experiences of the Afghan people in war,
>>> etc.  Should we try to see whether Terrell could come to C-U at the
>>> same time, and talk about their joint experience?
>>>
>>> Where would be a good place?  Perhaps the Mennonite Church would be
>>> interested?  (Champaign Library is busy both days, and it's a rather
>>> sterile location anyway.  Channing-Murray might be possible; I'm not sure
>>> how to read their schedule, but they may be busy too.)
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 06:40:22PM -0600, Kasey Umland <
>>> kasey at universityymca.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Stuart,
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to work out Kathy Kelly's itinerary for her visit to the
>>>> University of Illinois on February 18 and was wondering if AWARE would
>>>> be
>>>> interesting in doing any kind of event during her stay.  Most likely,
>>>> Kathy
>>>> will arrive on February 18 and leave on the evening of February 19 but
>>>> she
>>>> would also be available Thursday night if that is better.
>>>>
>>>> Let me know.
>>>>
>>>> Kasey
>>>>
>>>> February 18
>>>> “Prophetic Voice/Public Witness: Searching for a Non-Violent Approach”
>>>> Kathy Kelly, Co-coordinator, Voices for Creative Non-Violence
>>>> Kathy Kelly has traveled to Afghanistan and Pakistan several times in
>>>> the
>>>> past year to learn more about the effects of U.S. warfare on those who
>>>> are
>>>> bearing the brunt of our wars. With a small delegation from Voices for
>>>> Creative Nonviolence, (VCNV), she spent three weeks with Afghan Youth
>>>> Peace
>>>> Volunteers, in Kabul and in Bamiyan, during December of last year. Kelly
>>>> co-coordinates VCNV.
>>>>
>>>> Kathy Kelly co-coordinates Voices for Creative Nonviolence, a campaign
>>>> to
>>>> end U.S. military and economic warfare. She and her companions at the
>>>> Voices home/office in Chicago believe that non-violence necessarily
>>>> involves simplicity, service, sharing of resources and non-violent
>>>> direct
>>>> action in resistance to war and oppression.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> Kasey Umland
>>>> Program Director
>>>> University YMCA
>>>> 1001 S. Wright Street
>>>> Champaign, IL 61820
>>>> 217-337-1514 - office
>>>> 217-337-1533 - fax
>>>> www.universityymca.org - online
>>>> kasey at universityymca.org - e-mail
>>>>
>>>> Check out the University YMCA's Student Programs: Alternative Spring
>>>> Break
>>>> * Amnesty International * Campus Vegetarian Society * Engineers Without
>>>> Borders * Green Observer * Interfaith in Action * Invisible Conflicts *
>>>> La
>>>> Colectiva* Philippine Student Association * Red Bison * Students for
>>>> Environmental ConcernS * VIS-A-VIS
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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