[Peace-discuss] dream about the moonlight on the wall bash...

[C. G. Estabrook]

As the pun-loving Earl of Oxford put it in /The Tragedy of Julius Caesar/,

CASSIUS: Did Cicero say any thing?
CASCA: Ay, he spoke Greek.
CASSIUS: To what effect?
CASCA: Nay, an I tell you that, I'll ne'er look you i' the face again: but those 
that understood him smiled at one another and shook their heads; but, for mine 
own part, it was Greek to me. I could tell you more news too: Marullus and 
Flavius, for pulling scarfs off Caesar's images, are put to silence. Fare you 
well. There was more foolery yet, if I could remember it.

And I'm told that there's an expression in Mandarin

聽起來像火星話。/听起来像火星话

that updates the reference...


On 5/15/11 8:41 AM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:
> I grew up thinking that Wabash, river, and cannonball, had at least one or 2 
> ells in it.
>
> It's a thin line between paronomasic eleutherianism and cruel&unusual pun ish 
> ment.
>
>
> On 5/15/2011 11:05 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>> Your title is almost funny enough to justify the loss of a little more 
>> liberty...
>>
>>
>> On 5/14/11 8:48 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" wrote:
>>> INDIANAPOLIS | Overturning a common law dating back to the English Magna 
>>> Carta of 1215, the Indiana Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Hoosiers have 
>>> no right to resist unlawful police entry into their homes.
>>>
>>> In a 3-2 decision, Justice Steven David writing for the court said if a 
>>> police officer wants to enter a home for any reason or no reason at all, a 
>>> homeowner cannot do anything to block the officer's entry.
>>>
>>> "We believe ... a right to resist an unlawful police entry into a home is 
>>> against public policy and is incompatible with modern Fourth Amendment 
>>> jurisprudence," David said. "We also find that allowing resistance 
>>> unnecessarily escalates the level of violence and therefore the risk of 
>>> injuries to all parties involved without preventing the arrest."
>>>
>>> David said a person arrested following an unlawful entry by police still can 
>>> be released on bail and has plenty of opportunities to protest the illegal 
>>> entry through the court system.
>>>
>>> The court's decision stems from a Vanderburgh County case in which police 
>>> were called to investigate a husband and wife arguing outside their apartment.
>>>
>>> When the couple went back inside their apartment, the husband told police 
>>> they were not needed and blocked the doorway so they could not enter. When 
>>> an officer entered anyway, the husband shoved the officer against a wall. A 
>>> second officer then used a stun gun on the husband and arrested him.
>>>
>>> Professor Ivan Bodensteiner, of Valparaiso University School of Law, said 
>>> the court's decision is consistent with the idea of preventing violence.
>>>
>>> "It's not surprising that they would say there's no right to beat the hell 
>>> out of the officer," Bodensteiner said. "(The court is saying) we would 
>>> rather opt on the side of saying if the police act wrongfully in entering 
>>> your house your remedy is under law, to bring a civil action against the 
>>> officer."
>>>
>>> Justice Robert Rucker, a Gary native, and Justice Brent Dickson, a Hobart 
>>> native, dissented from the ruling, saying the court's decision runs afoul of 
>>> the Fourth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.
>>>
>>> "In my view the majority sweeps with far too broad a brush by essentially 
>>> telling Indiana citizens that government agents may now enter their homes 
>>> illegally -- that is, without the necessity of a warrant, consent or exigent 
>>> circumstances," Rucker said. "I disagree."
>>>
>>> Rucker and Dickson suggested if the court had limited its permission for 
>>> police entry to domestic violence situations they would have supported the 
>>> ruling.
>>>
>>> But Dickson said, "The wholesale abrogation of the historic right of a 
>>> person to reasonably resist unlawful police entry into his dwelling is 
>>> unwarranted and unnecessarily broad."
>>>
>>> This is the second major Indiana Supreme Court ruling this week involving 
>>> police entry into a home.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, the court said police serving a warrant may enter a home without 
>>> knocking if officers decide circumstances justify it. Prior to that ruling, 
>>> police serving a warrant would have to obtain a judge's permission to enter 
>>> without knocking.
>>>
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>>
>>
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