[Peace-discuss] Obama's responsibility

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Mon Nov 21 18:06:07 CST 2011


That's why Wikileaks is so important - and why Assange and Manning are  
in jail, and Obama is free.

The children of this age are more shrewd in dealing with their own  
generation than are the children of light.

On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:56 PM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:

> In the past, government activism against citizen activism has been  
> the bishoprick of the F.B.I.
> and included all manner of tactics.  No doubt the names have been  
> changed to confuse the innocent.
>
> "The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society;
> and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed
> to secret societies, to secret oaths, and to secret proceedings."
> (attributed to JFK, he did speak the words.)
>
> For me the very notion that one should file a request to get  
> information from a
> public agency is absurd, and intolerable, not merely repugnant in a  
> free and open society...
>
> I once worked for a U of I department that was subject to FOIA  
> requests from time to time.
> (CGE was a higher level of "Observation" in the same building.)
> It was incredible to me  how the department reacted to such  
> requests.  They really hate FOIA
> requests.  Perhaps nothing torments them so much as being subject to  
> a FOIA request.
> Indeed the tormenting of them is a damn good reason to file a FOIA  
> request.
>
> Such bureaucratic vermin know how to fight back.  They charge for  
> the photocopying but not for the Magic Marker
> that is used to redact the materials.  They black out the info with  
> the zeal of a Nazi censor
> at a prisoner's love letters. What is left after the censoring, as  
> Mason Williams said, is a "doily for your mind".
>
> Of course, if you want the real stuff, you need to do what the FBI  
> does.  Infiltrate the bastards and
> get copies of the real thing.  Then it's fun to see what they  
> decided should be redacted in their cowering fear and stupidity.
>
> *
>
> The Censor sits
> Somewhere between
> The scenes to be seen
> And the television sets
> With his scissor purpose poised
> Watching the human stuff
> That will sizzle through
> The magic wires
> And light up
> Like welding shops
> The ho-hum rooms of America
> And with a kindergarten
> Arts and crafts concept
> Of moral responsibility
> Snips out
> The rough talk
> The unpopular opinion
> Or anything with teeth
> And renders
> A pattern of ideas
> Full of holes
> A doily
> For your mind
>
> (Mason Williams, "The Censor")
>
>
> On 11/22/2011 4:17 AM, Carl G. Estabrook wrote:
>>
>> National Lawyers Guild Files FOIA Requests Seeking Evidence of  
>> Federal Role in Occupy Crackdown
>> by: Dave Lindorff - Fri, 11/18/2011
>>
>>  With Congress no longer performing its sworn role of defending the  
>> US Constitution, the National Lawyers Guild Mass Defense Committee  
>> and the Partnership for Civil Justice today filed requests under  
>> the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) asking the Department of  
>> Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, the FBI, the CIA and  
>> the National Parks Service to release "all their information on the  
>> planning of the coordinated law enforcement crackdown on Occupy  
>> protest encampments in multiple cities over the course of recent  
>> days and weeks"...
>>
>> ...the Occupy Movement is developing plans for a national  
>> occupation of the National Mall, the big park that runs between the  
>> Capitol and the Lincoln Monument that has been the scene of many  
>> historic rallies and occupations in decades past. A national  
>> General Assembly is being planned for April 1, which will focus on  
>> " the failure of the Democrats and Republicans in Congress to  
>> represent the views of the majority of people, the Supreme Court  
>> for allowing the Constitution to be perverted and for ignoring the  
>> rule of law and the Chamber of Commerce and lobbyists on K St for  
>> dominating the political process in favor of the 1% at the expense  
>> of the 99%."
>>
>> This thing ain't over. It's just getting going.
>>
>> http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/node/910
>>
>>
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