[Peace-discuss] why they hate us

E. Wayne Johnson ewj at pigs.ag
Sat Sep 10 17:21:52 CDT 2011


The U.S. government has learned absolutely nothing since 9/11. Instead 
of the occasion being a time to reassess a century of bad foreign 
policy, it was used as an excuse to start two wars against countries 
that had nothing to do with 9/11 and accelerate the destruction of 
American freedoms. And now, ten years later, the anniversary of 9/11 
will be used to lionize the police state, the warfare state, and the 
national security state while justifying even more wars.

Why They Hate Us
by Laurence M. Vance

http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance257.html

     "Today, our fellow citizens, our way of life, our very freedom came 
under attack in a series of deliberate and deadly terrorist acts. . . . 
America was targeted for attack because we're the brightest beacon for 
freedom and opportunity in the world." ~ George W. Bush, address to the 
nation, September 11, 2001

     "They hate our freedoms: our freedom of religion, our freedom of 
speech, our freedom to vote and assemble and disagree with each other." 
~ George W. Bush, address to Congress, September 20, 2001

Of all the lies of the Bush administration used to justify the wars in 
Iraq and Afghanistan, this one has proven to be the most enduring -- and 
the most wrong.

According to a 2004 report on strategic communication prepared by the 
Defense Science Board Task Force, "a federal advisory committee 
established to provide independent advice to the secretary of defense":

         American direct intervention in the Muslim World has
    paradoxically elevated the stature of and support for radical
    Islamists, while diminishing support for the United States to
    single-digits in some Arab societies.

         Muslims do not "hate our freedom," but rather, they hate our
    policies. The overwhelming majority voice their objections to what
    they see as one-sided support in favor of Israel and against
    Palestinian rights, and the longstanding, even increasing support
    for what Muslims collectively see as tyrannies, most notably Egypt,
    Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Pakistan, and the Gulf states.

         Furthermore, in the eyes of Muslims, American occupation of
    Afghanistan and Iraq has not led to democracy there, but only more
    chaos and suffering. U.S. actions appear in contrast to be motivated
    by ulterior motives, and deliberately controlled in order to best
    serve American national interests at the expense of truly Muslim
    selfdetermination.

         Therefore, the dramatic narrative since 9/11 has essentially
    borne out the entire radical Islamist bill of particulars. American
    actions and the flow of events have elevated the authority of the
    Jihadi insurgents and tended to ratify their legitimacy among
    Muslims. Fighting groups portray themselves as the true defenders of
    an Ummah (the entire Muslim community) invaded and under attack --
    to broad public support.


A 2006 National Intelligence Estimate concluded that the war in Iraq 
increased the threat of terrorism rather than reduced it. "Trends in 
Global Terrorism: Implications for the United States" points out the 
"centrality" of the U.S. invasion of Iraq in fomenting terrorist cells 
and attacks and describes how the American presence in Iraq has helped 
spread radical Islam by providing a focal point for anti-Americanism.

According to Michael Scheuer, who headed the CIA's bin Laden unit from 
1996 to 1999: "In the long run, we're not safer because we're still 
operating on the assumption that we're hated because of our freedoms, 
when in fact we're hated because of our actions in the Islamic world. 
There's our military presence in Islamic countries, the perception that 
we control the Muslim world's oil production, our support for Israel and 
for countries that oppress Muslims such as China, Russia, and India, and 
our own support for Arab tyrannies."

Peter Bergen, who produced the first television interview with Osama Bin 
Laden in 1997, says "that in all the tens of thousands of words uttered 
by bin Laden, he was strangely silent about American freedoms and 
values. He didn't seem to care very much about the beliefs of the 
'crusaders.' His focus was invariably on U.S. foreign policy in the 
Middle East."

Political scientist James Payne, in a review of twenty-four official 
pronouncements of Osama bin Laden from 1994-2004, found that 72 percent 
of the content amounted to "criticism of the United States and other 
Western countries for their aggression against Muslim lands and the need 
to defend against and punish this aggression." Only 1 percent criticized 
American culture or the American way of life.

If we really want to know why American is hated by terrorists, 
insurgents, jihadists, militants, and Islamofascists, then we should 
just ask them. Actually, we don't even need to ask, just listen.

Listen to Osama bin Laden, the late leader of al Qaeda. First, from his 
1996 fatwa:

         It should not be hidden from you that the people of Islam had
    suffered from aggression, iniquity and injustice imposed on them by
    the Zionist-Crusaders alliance and their collaborators; to the
    extent that the Muslims blood became the cheapest and their wealth
    as loot in the hands of the enemies. Their blood was spilled in
    Palestine and Iraq. The horrifying pictures of the massacre of Qana,
    in Lebanon are still fresh in our memory. Massacres in Tajakestan,
    Burma, Cashmere, Assam, Philippine, Fatani, Ogadin, Somalia,
    Erithria, Chechnia and in Bosnia-Herzegovina took place, massacres
    that send shivers in the body and shake the conscience. All of this
    and the world watch and hear, and not only didn't respond to these
    atrocities, but also with a clear conspiracy between the USA and
    its' allies and under the cover of the iniquitous United Nations,
    the dispossessed people were even prevented from obtaining arms to
    defend themselves.

         The latest and the greatest of these aggressions, incurred by
    the Muslims since the death of the Prophet (ALLAH'S BLESSING AND
    SALUTATIONS ON HIM) is the occupation of the land of the two Holy
    Places -- the foundation of the house of Islam, the place of the
    revelation, the source of the message and the place of the noble
    Ka'ba, the Qiblah of all Muslims -- by the armies of the American
    Crusaders and their allies.


Second, from his 1997 CNN interview:

         We declared jihad against the US government, because the US
    government is unjust, criminal and tyrannical. It has committed acts
    that are extremely unjust, hideous and criminal, whether directly or
    through its support of the Israeli occupation of the Prophet's Night
    Travel Land.

         A reaction might take place as a result of the US government's
    hitting Muslim civilians and executing more than 600,000 Muslim
    children in Iraq by preventing food and medicine from reaching them.
    So, the US is responsible for any reaction, because it extended its
    war against troops to civilians.


And third, from his 1998 Fatwa:

         The Arabian Peninsula has never -- since God made it flat,
    created its desert, and encircled it with seas -- been stormed by
    any forces like the crusader armies spreading in it like locusts,
    eating its riches and wiping out its plantations. All this is
    happening at a time in which nations are attacking Muslims like
    people fighting over a plate of food. In the light of the grave
    situation and the lack of support, we and you are obliged to discuss
    current events, and we should all agree on how to settle the matter.

         No one argues today about three facts that are known to
    everyone; we will list them, in order to remind everyone:

         First, for over seven years the United States has been
    occupying the lands of Islam in the holiest of places, the Arabian
    Peninsula, plundering its riches, dictating to its rulers,
    humiliating its people, terrorizing its neighbors, and turning its
    bases in the Peninsula into a spearhead through which to fight the
    neighboring Muslim peoples.

         If some people have in the past argued about the fact of the
    occupation, all the people of the Peninsula have now acknowledged
    it. The best proof of this is the Americans' continuing aggression
    against the Iraqi people using the Peninsula as a staging post, even
    though all its rulers are against their territories being used to
    that end, but they are helpless.

         Second, despite the great devastation inflicted on the Iraqi
    people by the crusader-Zionist alliance, and despite the huge number
    of those killed, which has exceeded 1 million ... despite all this,
    the Americans are once against trying to repeat the horrific
    massacres, as though they are not content with the protracted
    blockade imposed after the ferocious war or the fragmentation and
    devastation.

         So here they come to annihilate what is left of this people and
    to humiliate their Muslim neighbors.

         Third, if the Americans' aims behind these wars are religious
    and economic, the aim is also to serve the Jews' petty state and
    divert attention from its occupation of Jerusalem and murder of
    Muslims there. The best proof of this is their eagerness to destroy
    Iraq, the strongest neighboring Arab state, and their endeavor to
    fragment all the states of the region such as Iraq, Saudi Arabia,
    Egypt, and Sudan into paper statelets and through their disunion and
    weakness to guarantee Israel's survival and the continuation of the
    brutal crusade occupation of the Peninsula.

         All these crimes and sins committed by the Americans are a
    clear declaration of war on God, his messenger, and Muslims. And
    ulema have throughout Islamic history unanimously agreed that the
    jihad is an individual duty if the enemy destroys the Muslim countries.

         The ruling to kill the Americans and their allies -- civilians
    and military -- is an individual duty for every Muslim who can do it
    in any country in which it is possible to do it, in order to
    liberate the al-Aqsa Mosque and the holy mosque [Mecca] from their
    grip, and in order for their armies to move out of all the lands of
    Islam, defeated and unable to threaten any Muslim.


Because of the many undocumented statements that have been attributed to 
bin Laden since 9/11, I have deliberately not included any of his 
purported post-9/11 statements.

Listen to Ramzi Yousef, convicted of bombing the World Trade Center in 
1993, and now serving a life sentence. From his January 8, 1998, court 
appearance:

         You keep talking also about collective punishment and killing
    innocent people to force governments to change their policies; you
    call this terrorism when someone would kill innocent people or
    civilians in order to force the government to change its policies.
    Well, when you were the first one who invented this terrorism.

         You were the first one who killed innocent people, and you are
    the first one who introduced this type of terrorism to the history
    of mankind when you dropped an atomic bomb which killed tens of
    thousands of women and children in Japan and when you killed over a
    hundred thousand people, most of them civilians, in Tokyo with fire
    bombings. You killed them by burning them to death. And you killed
    civilians in Vietnam with chemicals as with the so-called Orange
    agent. You killed civilians and innocent people, not soldiers,
    innocent people every single war you went. You went to wars more
    than any other country in this century, and then you have the nerve
    to talk about killing innocent people.

         And now you have invented new ways to kill innocent people. You
    have so-called economic embargo which kills nobody other than
    children and elderly people, and which other than Iraq you have been
    placing the economic embargo on Cuba and other countries for over 35
    years.

         The Government in its summations and opening statement said
    that I was a terrorist. Yes, I am a terrorist and I am proud of it.
    And I support terrorism so long as it was against the United States
    Government and against Israel, because you are more than terrorists;
    you are the one who invented terrorism and using it every day. You
    are butchers, liars and hypocrites.


Yousef and his co-conspirators (Mohammed Salameh, Nidal Ayyad, Mahmud 
Abouhalima, Ahmad Ajaj, and Abdul Rahman Yasin) sent a letter to the New 
York Times after the bombing that spelled out their motive:

         We are, the fifth battalion in the LIBERATION ARMY, declare our
    responsibility for the explosion on the mentioned building. This
    action was done in response for the American political, economical,
    and military support to Israel the state of terrorism and to the
    rest of the dictator countries in the region.

         OUR DEMANDS ARE:

         1 - Stop all military, economical, and political aid to Israel.

         2 - All diplomatic relations with Israel must stop.

         3 - Not to interfere with any of the Middle East countries
    interior affairs.

         IF our demands are not met, all of our functional groups in the
    army will continue to execute our missions against the military and
    civilian targets in and out the United States. For your own
    information, our army has more than hundred and fifty suicidal
    soldiers ready to go ahead. The terrorism that Israel practices
    (Which is supported by America) must be faced with a similar one.
    The dictatorship and terrorism also supported by America) that some
    countries are practicing against their own people must also be faced
    with terrorism.

         The American people must know, that their civilians who got
    killed are not better than those who are getting killed by the
    American weapons and support.

         The American people are responsible for the actions of their
    government and they must question all of the crimes that their
    government is committing against other people. Or they -- Americans
    -- will be the targets of our operations that could diminish them.

         LIBERATION ARMY, FIFTH BATTALION


Listen to Richard Reid, the convicted "shoe bomber." From his 2003 court 
appearance:

         With regards to what you said about killing innocent people, I
    will say one thing. Your government has killed 2 million children in
    Iraq. OK? If you want to think about something, 20 against 2
    million, I don't see no comparison. OK?

         Your government has sponsored the rape and torture of Muslims
    in the prisons of Egypt and Turkey and Syria and Jordan with their
    money and with their weapons. OK? I don't know, see what I done as
    being equal to rape and to torture, or to the deaths of the 2
    million children in Iraq. OK? So for this reason, I think I ought
    not apologize for my actions.

         I am at war with your country. I'm at war with them not for
    personal reasons but because they have murdered so many children and
    they have oppressed my religion and they have oppressed people for
    no reason except that they say we believe in Allah. This is the only
    reason that America sponsors Egypt. It's the only reason they
    sponsor Turkey. It's the only reason they back Israel. OK?


Listen to Faisal Shahzad, the Times Square car bomber. First, from his 
June 21, 2010 court appearance:

         I want to plead guilty and I'm going to plead guilty a hundred
    times forward because until the hour the US pulls it forces from
    Iraq and Afghanistan and stops the drone strikes in Somalia and
    Yemen and in Pakistan and stops the occupation of Muslim lands and
    stops killing the Muslims and stops reporting the Muslims to its
    government, we will be attacking US, and I plead guilty to that.

         Well, I am part of that. I am part of the answer to the US
    terrorizing the Muslim nations and the Muslim people, and on behalf
    of that, I'm avenging the attacks, because only -- like living in
    US, the Americans only care about their people, but they don't care
    about the people elsewhere in the world when they die.


And second, from his October 5, 2010, court appearance:

         My statement should take about five minutes to ten minutes, and
    I hope that the judge and the Court will listen to me before they
    sentence me. In the name of Allah, the most gracious, the most
    merciful, this is but one life. If I am given a thousand lives, I
    will sacrifice them all for the sake of Allah fighting this cause,
    defending our lands, making the word of Allah supreme over any
    religion or system. We Muslims don't abide by human-made laws,
    because they are always corrupt. And I had a firsthand experience
    when on the second day of my arrest I asked for the Miranda. And the
    FBI denied it to me for two weeks, effecting harm to my kids and
    family, and I was forced to sign those Mirandas. The sentence by the
    judge will not mean anything to me, for how can I be judged when the
    Court does not understand the suffering of my people. They don't
    understand my side of the story, where the Muslim life of is no
    value. Therefore, the only true judgment will be on the day of
    resurrection when Allah will judge between me and you as to who is
    fighting for the just cause. So decree whatever you desire to
    decree, for you can only decree regarding the life of this world.
    The crusading U.S. and NATO forces who have occupied the Muslim
    lands under the pretext of democracy and freedom for the last nine
    years and are saying with their mouths that they are fighting
    terrorism, I say to them, we don't accept your democracy nor your
    freedom, because we already have Sharia law and freedom.
    Furthermore, brace yourselves, because the war with Muslims has just
    begun. Consider me only a first droplet of the flood that will
    follow me. And only this time it's not imperial Japan or Germany,
    Vietnam or Russian communism. This time it's the war against people
    who believe in the book of Allah and follow the commandments, so
    this is a war against Allah. So let's see how you can defeat your
    Creator, which you can never do. Therefore, the defeat of U.S. is
    imminent and will happen in the near future, inshallah, which will
    only give rise to much awaited Muslim caliphate, which is the only
    true world order. Soon the bailout money which is holding your
    fragile economy will run out and soon you will not be able to afford
    the war costs.

         So, the past nine years the war with Muslims has achieved
    nothing for the U.S., except for it has waken up the Muslims for
    Islam. We are only Muslims trying to defend our, people, honor, and
    land. But if you call us terrorists for doing that, then we are
    proud terrorists, and we will keep on terrorizing until you leave
    our land and people at peace. But if you don't, then I remind you
    that we have watches and we have time. We will defeat you with time.


Listen to Najibullah Zazi, who pled guilty to conspiring to undertake a 
suicide attack on the New York subway system. From his 2010 court 
appearance: "I would sacrifice myself to bring attention to what the 
United States military was doing to civilians in Afghanistan by 
sacrificing my soul for the sake of saving other souls."

Listen to Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen living in Yemen. From his 
2010 "Call to Jihad":

         We the Muslims do not have an inherent animosity towards any
    racial group or ethnicity. We are not against Americans for just
    being Americans. We are against evil and America as a whole has
    turned into a nation of evil. What we see from America is the
    invasion of [inaudible] countries, we see Abu Ghraib, Baghram and
    Guantanamo Bay, we see cruise missiles and cluster bombs and we have
    just seen in Yemen the death of 23 children and 17 women. We cannot
    stand idly in the face of such aggression and we will fight back and
    incite others to do the same.

         I for one was born in the U.S., I lived in the U.S. for 21
    years. America was my home. I was a preacher of Islam involved in
    non-violent Islamic activism. However, with the American invasion of
    Iraq and continued U.S. aggression against Muslims I could not
    reconcile between living in the U.S. and being a Muslim.


And finally, listen to a statement from al-Qaeda's American-born 
spokesman, Adam Gadahn, released last year:

         The fact is, Barack, if you ever decide to get serious about
    improving America's security, protecting the American people and
    preventing a sharp rise in the number of American casualties at home
    and abroad and in the air, at sea and on land, then there are a
    number of simple, sound and effective steps which you can take which
    can go a long way towards achieving those goals. The Muslim
    Mujahideen defending their faith and brethren against your nation's
    evildoing have repeatedly made clear these steps, but because I
    suspect you have been living in the ivory tower and information
    vacuum in which arrogant Washington insiders like you often live, I
    shall summarize these steps here. I strongly suggest you heed and
    implement them, for your own good and the good of your people.

         First, you must pull every last one of your soldiers, spies,
    security advisors, trainers, attaches, contractors, robots, drones
    and all other American personnel, ships and aircraft out of every
    Muslim land from Afghanistan to Zanzibar.

         Second, you must end all support -- both moral and material --
    to Israel and bar your citizens from traveling to Occupied Palestine
    or settling there, and you must impose a blanket ban on American
    trade with the Zionist regime and investment in it. Your security
    will not be improved by empty threats like those your special envoy
    made about the possible suspension of American loans, in and of
    itself a largely meaningless gesture. As Shaykh Usama told you, if
    you don't heed our warnings and stop your support of Israel, we will
    have no choice but to continue to use other ways to get our message
    across.

         Third, you must stop all support and aid -- be it military,
    political, economic or otherwise -- to the hated regimes of the
    Muslim world. This includes the so-called "development aid" which
    your secretary of state recently identified as being one of the most
    important elements of future American efforts to combat the Islamic
    renaissance and Jihadi awakening sweeping the Muslim world.

         Fourth, you must cease all interference in the religion,
    society, politics, economy and government of the Islamic world. This
    means putting an immediate stop to the deployment of your economic
    hit men, CIA jackals, Peace Corps volunteers, USAID employees, and
    UN-and-US-sponsored non-governmental organizations, all of which,
    put together, represent the vanguard of American interference in our
    region and the world.

         Fifth, you must also put an end to all forms of American and
    American sponsored interference in the educational curricula and
    information media of the Muslim world, and you must end all
    broadcasts targeting our region, especially those designed to alter
    or destroy the faith, minds, morals and values of our Muslim people.

         And sixth, you must free all Muslim captives from your prisons,
    detention facilities and concentration camps, regardless of whether
    they have been recipients of what you call a "fair" trial or not. As
    our heroic brother Abu Dujaanah al-Khorasaani told you with his
    words and actions, we will never forget our prisoners.

    Instead of listening or asking questions, the reaction of the United
    States has been bomb first, don't listen or ask questions, and then
    bomb later -- and invade, occupy, torture, maim, kill, incarcerate,
    rendition, assassinate, and destroy property and infrastructure.


And as Glenn Greenwald recently pointed out:

         The fact that victims of American violence over the last two
    decades have easily outweighed, and continue to outweigh, those of
    the Dictators and Terrorists whom we so vocally despise is
    nonetheless an extremely important fact that should shape our
    understanding of 9/11.


The cry of the Muslim masses in Tunisia, Egypt, Libya, and elsewhere in 
the Middle East was not for Islamofascism, global Islamic conquest, a 
global Caliphate, the worldwide establishment of Sharia law, a new 
holocaust, suicide bombers, and terrorists attacks, but for more freedom 
-- something they supposedly hate us for.

Muslims seem to be more interested in killing other Muslims than in 
killing Americans who aren't bombing and occupying their countries -- 
just look at the history of Sunni versus Shiite violence since Muhammad 
died in 632 and a disagreement ensued over whom should be his successor.

The U.S. government has learned absolutely nothing since 9/11. Instead 
of the occasion being a time to reassess a century of bad foreign 
policy, it was used as an excuse to start two wars against countries 
that had nothing to do with 9/11 and accelerate the destruction of 
American freedoms. And now, ten years later, the anniversary of 9/11 
will be used to lionize the police state, the warfare state, and the 
national security state while justifying even more wars.

U.S. foreign policy is an abomination in the sight of God, and I don't 
mean Allah.

September 10, 2011
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