[Peace-discuss] Jill Stein

Sat Apr 21 16:31:37 UTC 2012

There's very little chance that Illinois' electoral vote will go to  
anyone but the Democratic party nominee, so we in Illinois should use  
the presidential election to express our opinion in favor of what we  
really want.

It's immoral to vote for the child-killer in the White House on the  
excuse that someone else in the job might make some worse appointments  
than he.

Of course, if a president is driven from office for his crimes - as  
Johnson and Nixon were - it's at least as possible that the successor  
take a lesson from that, as that his successor make bad appointments.   
--CGE

On Apr 21, 2012, at 11:06 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:

> Soooo... deny the election to Obama so Romney gets to pick the next  
> Supreme Court justice??  Didn't folks learn their lesson from Bush- 
> Gore
> which gave us Roberts and Alito??
>
>
> --- On Wed, 4/18/12, David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net> wrote:
>
> From: David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net>
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] Jill Stein
> To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@mail0.frost.chambana.net
> Date: Wednesday, April 18, 2012, 10:15 PM
>
>
> February 14, 2012, 7:38 am
> Five Questions for Jill Stein of the Green Party
>
> By MICHAEL D. SHEAR
> Throughout 2012, The Caucus will occasionally pose five questions to  
> individuals from across the political spectrum who have special  
> insight into government, policy making and political combat. If  
> there is someone you think should be interviewed, let us know in the  
> comment section below, or send me an e-mail at michael.shear at nytimes.com 
> .
>
> This week’s subject is Jill Stein, a candidate for the Green Party’s  
> presidential nomination. Ms. Stein, a former physician and teacher  
> of internal medicine, writes and speaks about the connections  
> between the environment and health. She ran for governor of  
> Massachusetts in 2002 against Mitt Romney.
>
> Q. Why are you running for president?
>
> Michael Manning/Associated PressJill Stein, a Green Party candidate  
> for president, during her campaign for governor of Massachusetts in  
> 2002.
> A. We are in crisis and people are losing their jobs and their homes  
> and their health care and affordable higher education and civil  
> liberties. You name it, they are losing it. We have got a 1 percent  
> that’s rolling in dough as much as ever and the political  
> establishment is not fixing it. The establishment got us into this  
> mess, in both parties. And that’s clear as day. Over 10 years, I  
> have been a recalcitrant political challenger, a recurrent  
> alternative that would not go away.
>
> Q. Is your campaign trying to tap into the Occupy movement?
>
> A. Occupy is very much a part of a broader move for democracy and  
> economic and social justice. That is alive and well around the  
> world. Just look at what is going on in Wisconsin which is directly  
> linked to Occupy. It doesn’t have the name of Occupy, but they slept  
> for three weeks in the statehouse. If that’s not Occupy, what is?  
> The Occupy movement, beneath the surface, represents a political  
> coming of age of a younger generation who have been on the receiving  
> end of a generally exploitative economy. One of those groups to  
> exploit has been young people. They have been exploited in  
> education. The unemployment crisis hits them the hardest. They are  
> bearing the burden for the climate disruptions that are coming down  
> the pike.
>
> Q. Does President Obama deserve credit for health care and other  
> accomplishments?
>
> A. Small time, sure. There are minor improvements. But on the other  
> hand, he took single-payer off the table. He absolutely took a  
> public option off the table. As we found on issue after issue — the  
> war, reappointing George Bush’s secretary of defense, sticking to  
> George Bush’s timeline on Iraq, expanding the war, expanding the  
> drone wars all over the place. And how about bringing Wall Street  
> in, the guys who created the problem, among his first appointments.  
> It was pretty clear right then that this was going to be business as  
> usual on steroids. We’re certainly not more secure, more equitable,  
> more healthy or safer internationally, with what Obama has brought.
>
> Q. What do you think of Mitt Romney?
>
> A. He responds to his electorate. When he’s running in Salt Lake,  
> he’s anti-abortion. When he’s running in Massachusetts, he’s pro- 
> abortion. He responds to his electorate, broadly, except that he  
> remains basically pro-business in a very narrow sense of the word —  
> that is a pro-one-percent big, corporate multinational business. You  
> know what, that’s not so different from the way Larry Summers and  
> Tim Geithner are running the country under Barack Obama. When our  
> governorship changed from Mitt Romney and it went directly to Deval  
> Patrick, who is another poster child for progressive Democrats, no  
> difference. Nothing detectable. Nothing changed in Massachusetts  
> whatsoever.
>
> Q. Is there a difference between the Democratic and Republican  
> Parties?
>
> A. You might look at one party as a rapidly sinking ship and say  
> we’re going to vote for the other guy because the ship’s not going  
> down so fast. We don’t like him but he’s not sinking the ship so  
> fast. But the real question is, if both of those ships are heading  
> for the bottom of the ocean, do you want to be on either of them?  
> No. There’s no question about where those ships are heading if you  
> are looking at the economy.
>
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