[Peace-discuss] Fw: My Experience in Cuba

ewj at pigsqq.org ewj at pigsqq.org
Sun Jul 22 21:58:28 UTC 2012


Very nice writing David.  I really enjoyed reading it.

Part of the flavourfulness that you noticed in the food is the genetics of the animals
and part is due to the freshness.  By the time some of the food in the US reaches the 
consumer it is almost too old to eat.

The embargo against Cuba and the arrogant lies are awful. 
But try explaining why it is wrong to the people who support the 
embargoing and bashing...

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By the way, I am writing this from my hotel room in Yuenan Huzhimin Shi (Ho Chi Minh City - Saigon).
I am here for a few days teaching about trace mineral nutrition for pigs and chickens
particularly Selenium and Vitamin E deficiency issues.

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>  Subject: [Peace-discuss] Fw: My Experience in Cuba
>  Sent: Jul 22 '12 23:02
>  
>  LABOR'S WORLD VIEW  T.V.
>  
>  SUNDAY JULY 22nd
>  4 - 5PM
>  
>  COMCAST CHANNEL 6
>  UPTV ( Urbana Public Television  ).
>  
>  Video footage of a recent trip to Cuba (  June 17th - June 24th 2012 ).
>  Filmed in Havana and in the countryside in  Vinales ( 3-hours west of
>  Havana ).
>  Video footage of segments  of  the conference " Socialist Renovation and
>  Capitalist Crisis " at  the University of Havana, street scenes in Havana,
>  nature and  rural life in Vinales, inside three different " Casa
>  Particulares "  ( Cuban's who rent rooms in their homes to foreign visitors
>  ), Museum  of the Revolution, and live music.
>  
>  Also, check out the article below " MY  EXPERIENCE IN CUBA " for more
>  detailed info in addition to the sights and sounds  of the film footage.
>  
>  
>  MY EXPERIENCE IN CUBA
>  
>  DAVID JOHNSON
>  
>  For anyone who lives outside the United  States, a trip to Cuba is no
>  different than a trip to any Carribean country like  Jamaica, Aruba, etc..
>  However for U.S. Citizens and Premenant  Resident Alliens living in the
>  U.S., such a trip is not so  easy.
>  Three years ago the Obama administration  made it a little easier for U.S.
>  citizens to travel to Cuba, but there is still  a lengthy and more costly
>  proceedure that has to be  undertaken.
>  First one has to find a tour company that  has an " umbrella " license from
>  the U.S. Treasury Dept. that allows educational  and cultural trips to
>  Cuba. That costs anywhere from $ 300.00 and up per week  for the "
>  priviledge " to travel to Cuba, in addition to the round-trip  airfare.
>  Then once you are in Cuba, the U.S.  government demands that U.S. citizens
>  only stay in " approved " expensive  hotels arranged by the tour group and
>  participate in all programs of the  tour group. The U.S. government calls
>  this a " people to people exchange " ,  however as most things stated by
>  the U.S. government, what they say and what  they do or try to do is just
>  the opposite. Such is the REAL intended effect  of the above restrictions,
>  to LIMIT contact betwen U.S. visitors and the Cuban  people. And finally
>  when a U.S. citizen returns from Cuba, they are not allowed  to bring
>  anything with them from Cuba, except " items of communication " like  ;
>  books, CD's, DVD's, paintings and posters.
>  
>  
>  THE CONFERENCE
>  
>  My trip was under the  educational auspicies of a conference at the
>  University of Havana organized  by an organization called " Global Justice
>  ", and the theme of the conference  was ; " Socialist Renovation and
>  Capitalist Crisis".
>  The conference had participants and topic  presenters from both Cuba and
>  the U.S.. There were mostly academics in  attenedence, but in addition to
>  myself a Carpenter by profession, there was a  Baker from the San Francisco
>  Bay area.
>  Much of the conference centered on problems  in the U.S. and responses to
>  these problems, like the Occupy Movement and in one  case, the Baker from
>  San Francisco making a presentation about the successful  cooperative he
>  has been a member of for almost 40 years, that started with 5  people and
>  now has 53 members.
>  The presentations from the Cuban's focused  on the problems they have been
>  facing historically with the U.S embargo, their  successes and failures in
>  the economy past and present, and ideas about the  future restructuring of
>  the economy to one degree or another. The topic of  converting state owned
>  enterprises into worker owned cooperatives was  repeatedly discussed, with
>  emphasis in the ; agricultural, construction,  retail, and hotel /
>  restaurant / bar and nightclub areas of the  economy.
>  There was also a very contentious topic of  allowing Cuban owned small
>  private enterprises to begin operation and to  allow them to hire
>  employees. This was a very hotly debated issue, since this  would begin the
>  process of worker exploitation.
>  Currently the only private enterprises  allowed in Cuba ( everything else
>  is owned and operated by the State, even  restaurants and bars ) are ;
>  individuals / families who rent rooms to  foreign visitors ( Casa
>  Particulars ), individuals / families who have  turned the front part of
>  their homes into restaurants, people who use their  vehicles for taxis, and
>  street vendors.
>  As an interesting example, the taxi driver  I had when I first arrived in
>  Cuba from the airport to my hotel was previously  an Engineer who worked
>  for the Cuban government, but is now driving his own taxi  because he earns
>  5-10 times as much as his previous Engineering  job.
>  An additional piece of info about the casa  particulars ( rooms rented to
>  foreign visitors in private homes ). The  three different homes I stayed in
>  all were clean. The hosts friendly. All of the  rooms were private with ; a
>  key, shower / toilet / sink, air-conditioned and /  or had a fan. Two of
>  the three also had a full sized refridgerator as well. I  payed $ 20 to $
>  25 ( U.S. ) for the rented rooms ( which included breakfast  ), as compared
>  to $ 80.00 ( U.S. ) for the barely tolerable tour group "  approved "
>  hotel.
>  
>  
>  MY IMPRESSIONS ON THE STREET
>  
>  To begin with, when one arrives in Cuba,  the first thing that is a
>  noticeable difference is the 5-mile ride into  Havana from the airport. One
>  begins to see billboards within a few minutes on  the road, but unlike the
>  U.S. and other places I have been in lesser devolped  countries ( Mexico,
>  Jamaica and Brazil ), one does not see billboards of  Coca-Cola, cellphone
>  companies, and even condom advertisements. Instead one sees  billboards
>  with revolutionary slogans with pictures of Che Guevera, Camilo  Cienfuegos
>  and the Cuban Five imprisoned in Florida. This is when it hit me  that I
>  was actually in Cuba.
>  On the streets one sees about one in every  four vehicles that are pre-1959
>  American cars, small Fiat looking  Russian vehicles from the 1970's and
>  1980's, many motorcycles with side  cars, an occasional newer Japanesse or
>  European vehicle, as well as many  horse drawn carts and newer Chinese city
>  buses.
>  For a city of 2-million people, the traffic  was steady but not congested.
>  The first evening I observed a lot of  social activity occuring in the
>  streets and along Havana's sea wall ( El Malecon  ). Young people with
>  unusual haircuts, piercings and tatoos like you would see  in the U.S. or
>  Europe. A diverse and intermingled racial mixture of  people socializing
>  together. Individuals, couples and families of  all ages walking around and
>  hanging-out at the seawall, drinking openly in  public and various
>  individuals and small groups of people singing and playing  musical
>  instruments. My first thoughts were that this did not seem like an
>  oppresive society.
>  In the U.S., the police would not tolerate  such large informal social
>  gatherings in public on the  streets drinking alcohol, and would be sending
>  in riot squads to break-up  any such gatherings that did not have official
>  approval,  restrictions and permits.
>  One saw Cuban police mainly in the tourist  areas and unlike Mexico,
>  Jamaica and Brazil, no where did I see the police  patroling with shotguns
>  and automatic weapons, with arrogant attitudes and  glaring at the people
>  on the streets, looking and acting like they were hoping  for a
>  confrontation with someone.
>  I have even seen this occasionaly in  the U.S., but not in Cuba. I felt
>  perfectly safe walking around at night. The  one danger in walking at night
>  in Havana however is the occasional uncovered  sewer manhole or busted
>  chuncks of concrete on the sidewalks in certain  areas.
>  In subsequent evenings during my 7-day stay in Cuba, I found to  my suprise
>  that the Cubans I spoke to were :
>  
>  1) Very well informed about what was  happening in general in the U.S..,
>  politically, economically,  etc..
>  
>  2) Not at all timid about stating  their opinions about what they liked and
>  disliked about the Cuban government  and society. Several people stated
>  that Fidel Castro, despite his  outstanding leadership in the Cuban
>  revolution, should have stepped aside years  ago, and that younger people
>  in general should be in leadership positions at the  national level. Also
>  that corruption is pervasive. In particular, if one needs  something like a
>  service they are entiltled to under Cuban law from a low  level government
>  official, that bribery is often needed to obtain what they  need in a
>  timely matter.
>  
>  3) Very proud of their healthcare and  educational system, and were shocked
>  to hear from me examples of how much  both healthcare and university
>  education cost in real terms compared to  what myself and the average U.S.
>  worker earned.
>  
>  4) Stated repeatedly the evils of the U.S.  embargo and did not blame the
>  American people, but instead the U.S.  government and those who control it.
>  
>  
>  5) Were cautiously optimistic about  the future in terms of ;
>  
>  a) The U.S. embargo  ending and a subsequent influx of U.S. tourists  and
>  products.
>  
>  b) The Cuban government transfering state  run enterprises into worker
>  owned cooperatives.
>  
>  c) Being able to travel abroad  easier.
>  
>  d) U.S. companies moving into Cuba  providing products and jobs but with
>  restictions upon them in terms of  their ability to control the economy and
>  influence the  government.
>  
>  e) Being able to protect their healthcare  and educational system from
>  adverse changes.
>  
>  What also suprised me was the abundance of  people who owned chickens in
>  Havana and the number of rooftop vegetable  gardens.
>  With the exception of my first night in  which I was " persuaded " by the
>  tour group to stay in an overpriced hotel, I  stayed in casa particulars (
>  Cubans who rent rooms to foreign visitors  ) and because of this I had
>  another oppurtunity to get the opinions of  my hosts as well as sample some
>  delicious home prepared Cuban food. What was  really amazing was how
>  tasteful simple items like eggs, milk and butter  were and how thick and
>  flavorful various fruit juices were compared to the  U.S..
>  It was obvious that Monsanto, ADM, Carghil,  and other agri-businesses with
>  their chemical and preservative laced products  and their livestock factory
>  production of egg, meat, and dairy products was not  present in Cuba.
>  The downside of Havana however was the  terrible condition of most of their
>  buildings, literally falling apart, even  though inside people's apartments
>  everything was clean and well  maintained.
>  The building elevators were very scary and  as I stated previously, the
>  sidewalks were in many places  torn-up.
>  The streets were in decent condition and  many of the two and three hundred
>  year old buildings in the old part of Havana  have been beautifully
>  restored. But when one walks a few blocks away from the  tourist areas with
>  it's magnitude of hustlers and aggresive prostitutes, one  finds entire
>  blocks of buildings in some areas that looked as if the U.S.  military had
>  bombed the area five years previously.
>  
>  IN THE COUNTRYSIDE
>  
>  The fourth day I was in Cuba I traveled to  a town 3-hours west of Havana
>  called Vinales, which has about 20,000  inhabitants and is located in an
>  agricultural area that grows ; tobacco, coffee,  and a variety of fruits,
>  vegetables and livestock. The primary attraction of the  area of Vinales is
>  the haystack shaped mountains ( Mozotes ) full of caves and  protected
>  forests that has been a UNESCO nature site since the mid-1970's. Hence
>  there is a fair amount of tourism every year.
>  The drive to Vinales was an interesting  glimpse of the Cuban country-side.
>  The interstate higway that we took  three-fourths of the journey was not in
>  as good of condition as interstate roads  in the U.S., but considerably
>  better than similar roads I have encountered in  the past in Jamaica and
>  Mexico ( with the exception of the expensive Mexican  toll roads ). Along
>  the interstate I saw people on bicycles and horse drawn  wagons traveling
>  on the shoulder of the highway, as well as groups of people  standing under
>  various overpass bridges, waiting for transport trucks to stop  and in
>  exchange for a few pesos give them a ride to town exits along the  way.
>  During the 120 mile or so ride on the  interstate I saw an occasional
>  agricultural field, but the vast majority of the  flat-lands ( with
>  mountains in the distance ) were unused grasslands and  scattered shrub
>  trees. At the previous days conference in Havana, I had learned  that Cuba
>  is only currently using about 20 % of it's potential of land that  could be
>  used for agricultural production. One of the future goals of the Cuban
>  government is to try to significantly increase the development of  unused
>  land into agricultural cooperatives. An importent priority in a  country
>  that imports 70 % of it's food supply.
>  Once we left the interstate and traveled  the last 15-miles or so on two
>  lane roads to the town of Vinales, I saw  a lot of small farms with many
>  fruit trees and various small to medium  sized parcels of land growing a
>  variety of crops, in addition to a fair amount  of pigs, chickens, goats,
>  and an occasional milk cow  and/or cattle.
>  All of the houses I saw were made of either  log cabin type solid wood or
>  concrete block and  stucco with a variety of different roofs of clay tile,
>  concrete, metal, or in some cases thatched  vegetation.
>  No where in Cuba, either in the  outskirts of Havana or the country-side
>  did I see the familiar metal and /  or cardboard shacks that I saw a lot of
>  in Mexico, Jamaica, and parts of  Brazil.
>  Nor did I see large amounts of  trash, garbage dumps, or rivers and streams
>  used as open sewers as exists in the  above countries.
>  On the two lane side road  to Vinales, I saw both arriving and during my
>  departure several days later,  transport and pick-up trucks with doctors
>  riding in the back, wearing  white robes and hiking boots and carrying
>  black doctor's bag of medical  supplies, making their weekly rounds to
>  small villages.
>  In the town of Vinales, other than the main  road into town where about 5-6
>  blocks of businesses were located, all of the  streets were rough dirt and
>  gravel with a considerable number of  pot-holes, with many chickens and
>  pigs wandering around.
>  In contrast, people's homes were in some  cases very well maintained inside
>  and on the exterior, to the point of  looking " middle class ". In general
>  it appeared that the people in this small  city had a higher standard of
>  living than most people in  Havana.
>  
>  CONCLUSION
>  
>  Cuba is a very  interesting country that is currently in a period of
>  transition. The  next five years or so should be interesting as to how and
>  to what extent  Cuba changes for either the worse or the better. In many
>  ways it is like things  have been frozen in time since the 1950's in the
>  case of many functioning  automobiles or more accurately the 1970's in the
>  case of it's " newer  " buildings, with an unbelievable amount of unspoiled
>  and untouched  nature as well as an abundance of older buildings that are
>  still  standing in various degrees of restoration or disrepair, some dating
>  from  the year 1650. But also an incredible number from the 1890's and the
>  1920's that  have an incredible amount of ornate architectual  detail.
>  It is my opinion that none of this  preserved history and nature would
>  exist if the Cuban revolution had not been  successful.
>  Capitalism would have destroyed most of it  years ago and in it's place new
>  sterile high-rise office buildings,  condos and shopping malls would have
>  been  constructed.
>  In terms of human beings, one of  the things I noticed was how good of
>  teeth everyone had. How I saw no  people sleeping in the streets, begging,
>  nor extremely thin or extremely  overweight people, or that
>  " beaten down " look of despair,  desperation and defeat. Which is more
>  than I can say about other places I  have been in Latin America / Carribean
>  ( Jamaica, Mexico, Brazil ) or even  in certain areas of the U.S..
>  Cuba has many problems, in particular the  general condition of housing and
>  infrastructure in Havana. But  Cuba has a much higher standard of living
>  than any of the neighboring  countries in the Carribean / Latin America, in
>  particular Haiti and  Hondurus.
>  It's main economic source of revenue is ;  tourism, tobacco, and sugar,
>  although it has made some significant economic  advances in recent years in
>  alternative energy such as wind, solar and  hydro-electricity, as well as
>  the beginings of a solar panel manafacturing  industry for both domestic
>  use and export. The overall economy has grown in  the last 2-3 years,
>  including a 24 % increase in tourism. Ironicly though the  tourism
>  infrastructure has been barely able to keep pace with the increase. I  was
>  told at the conference that if the U.S. embargo against Cuba would end next
>  month, there would be a mass influx of U.S. tourists and that Cuba would
>  not be  able to handle the increase in the number of visitors.
>  Although I wondered when I was in Cuba, if  Cuba really needed the U.S. for
>  anything considering it's current economic  relationships with Europe,
>  Latin America, China and Japan  ?
>  Ending the U.S. embargo I was told would  help Cuba in many ways such as
>  cheaper food prices and some medicines with U.S.  patents, as well as a
>  larger variety of products that would be available. As  long as there were
>  no political and economic " strings attached ". Of course if  U.S.
>  corporations would be allowed in to Cuba with no restrictions on their
>  operations and behaviour, how long would it be before the IMF and World
>  Bank  would begin to move-in ? If that would be the case it would only be a
>  matter of  time before they would try to privatize everything and the Cuban
>  people would  lose their free health-care and free educational system.
>  My wife's cousin who lives in Poland  experienced first hand what a total
>  transformation from a State run economy to a  capitalist economy is like.
>  Almost overnight when this happened in Poland in the  early 1990's, half of
>  the country lost their jobs, rents doubled and food  prices tripled. This
>  has since been termed " Shock Doctrine ", and several of  the Cuban
>  Presenters at the conference used the term and stated emphaticly that
>  current Cuban government officials have stated that they will under no
>  circumstances allow this to happen. I hope this is the case and not as in
>  the  transformation of Russia where shock doctrine also occured with the
>  cooperation  of Communist Party government officials who became very rich
>  in the process via  bribes and kickbacks.
>  
>  In general not only is Cuba fascinating and  it's people engaging and
>  friendly, but it has something very special  about it which is difficult to
>  describe.
>  Although I was only in Cuba for 7-days, and  I woulld need to live and work
>  there for at least a year to speak with any real  confidence about what
>  life there is truely like, I nevertheless saw that what I  had been told
>  about Cuba all my life via the U.S. government and the corporate  media was
>  an absolute and total LIE !
>  I hope that the Cuban people are able to  keep the best of what they have
>  and change for the better  the inadequacies. I am both worried and hopeful
>  as probably many  Cubans themselves are in terms of what the future will
>  be.
>  
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