[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] Re: [Discuss] [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [OccupyCU] Fwd: [cchcc-l] Gov. Quinn Announces State-Federal Partnership Health Exchange

[Carl G. Estabrook]

I hope that, if he becomes the Congressional representative of the 13th IL CD, David Gill will vote against Obama's widening war - from Central Asia to Central Africa - as forthrightly and consistently as Tim Johnson has. I'm not at all sure he will but would love to be proved wrong. 

The child-killer in the White House has tried to make the war acceptable by lying that he's withdrawing. I think David will support that. Johnson doesn't.  --CGE  


On Jul 30, 2012, at 7:43 PM, Germaine Light <lightport at sbcglobal.net> wrote:

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> Ricky speaks TRUTH
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> Germaine 
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> On Jul 30, 2012, at 6:25 PM, Ricky Baldwin <rbaldwin at seiu73.org> wrote:
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>>  
>> Actually, as you recall, Carl, Tim Johnson was an enthusiastic cheerleader for the war when Bush was in office until he saw the handwriting on the wall. The fact that we helped him see it with the referendum votes against the war should not lessen the reality that Johnson changed out of self-interest. 
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>> Before the invasion of Iraq Johnson claimed at a public meeting here in town that he was privy to secret information that the rest of us could not know about, which justified his unapologetic support for war. After the invasion of Iraq he was asked about that information, and his response that we should not be "Monday morning quarterbacking" - a bad joke because our position was not after-the-fact but of course had been made clear through protests and letters, etc., well before the war. 
>> 
>> None of that swayed him, nor did any subsequent revelations about the Bush Administration's lies, Abu Ghraib, the dirty contracts, and so on. He was not swayed in the least by our constant criticism, either, it seems, but in the end by a clear demonstration that local voters overwhelmingly opposed the war - and perhaps by the impending end of Bush's second and last term of office the next year. 
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>> Ricky 
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>> From: C. G. Estabrook [cge at shout.net] 
>> Sent: Monday, July 30, 2012 5:46 PM 
>> To: David Johnson 
>> Cc: astridjb at comcast.net; Ricky Baldwin; sf-core; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net; C-U Citzens for Peace and Justice; JWJ C-U 
>> Subject: Re: [sf-core] Re: [Discuss] [CentralILJwJ] Fw: [OccupyCU] Fwd: [cchcc-l] Gov. Quinn Announces State-Federal Partnership Health Exchange 
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>> Here's one of his publicity photos, David. 
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>> What is it the Obamanians say? "Oh, he's got to do that!" 
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>> But will he vote against Obama's war plans, as Tim Johnson does? 
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>> Will he vote against Obama's 'entitlement' cuts? 
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>> I hope so. --CGE 
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>> [https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/549668_2883010354197_858605138_n.jpg] 
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>> On Jul 30, 2012, at 3:54 PM, David Johnson <dlj725 at hughes.net<mailto:dlj725 at hughes.net>> wrote: 
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>> Gill will be one of the few dems I will vote for in November ( the rest I will leave blank or vote third party ). 
>> The reason I will vote for Gill is because of his position supporting expanding medicare for all and his changed and improved position against the continued occupation of Afganistan and his refusal to accept corporate money. 
>> If the democratic party has any future it will need to have more candidates like David Gill. 
>> I hope he doesn't flip flop once he is elected, I have had that happen all too often in the past. 
>> 
>> David J. 
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