[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] sleepwalking into the drone age - "I Met a 16-Year-Old Kid. 3 Days Later Obama Killed Him"

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Thu Jun 21 00:22:28 UTC 2012


"If they'd rather die they better do it now and decrease the surplus  
population."


On Jun 20, 2012, at 7:06 PM, E. Wayne Johnson wrote:

> BEING just contaminates the VOID.
>
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> On 6/21/2012 1:35 AM, Karen Medina wrote:
>> Eleanor wrote:>   Instead of waving banners that are often violent
>> sounding go to Africa or Palestine and work on bringing people
>> together.
>>
>> In response to this particular comment, I like a tee-shirt I bought
>> for Stuart at the anti-NATO demonstration that said, "Existence is
>> Resistance"
>>
>> It was a pro-Palestinian group selling the shirt. I bought it because
>> every Palestinian IS performing non-violent resistance every moment  
>> of
>> their lives.  [Watch the movie, Budrus.]
>>
>> But how often does the non-violence make the news?
>>
>> There are numerous groups in Israel and Palestine working together,
>> not just for understanding but for inclusion in society and equal
>> rights and basic human rights. How often do we hear of these? Can you
>> even name one group?
>>
>> I am not promoting violence in any way. I am just saying that, damn
>> it, we should know about the non-violence! The average person in the
>> Unites States only hears what the U.S. media gives them. Wake up and
>> see the non-violent movements and the overwhelming number of
>> non-violent individuals. But we are not going to find them unless we
>> go look for them. LOOK for THEM.
>>
>> As for the idea of going to Palestine, don't go to the area, unless
>> you really want to. We need to do so many things here to change the
>> United States' policies that allow (and encourage) the Israeli
>> government to continue their abuses*.
>>
>> At the very least, become a part of the Urbana-Champaign Peace
>> Initiative, see the film, Budrus. Listen to Mark Braverman. See the
>> film, Fatal Embrace. It is a great group. They take the non-violent
>> road very seriously and I believe they are a route for mutual
>> understanding.
>>
>> Personally, I take the road that Martin Luther King Jr. took in his
>> Nobel Peace Prize acceptance speech (and several times after that as
>> well).
>>
>> Each U.S. citizen that does not take a stand is committing violence  
>> by
>> allowing the U.S. (a democracy) to continue to support Israeli
>> violence.
>>
>> -karen medina
>> * A short list of the abuses the U.S. supports Israel in doing:
>> bulldozing Palestinian homes, taking over more and more Palestinian
>> land, using resources (like water) from Palestinian land for luxuries
>> (like swimming pools), restricting trade of the Palestinians, using
>> weapon of mass destruction on civilians, restricting movement on
>> Palestinian land, sending troops into Palestinian territories, just  
>> to
>> name a few.
>>
>> ---
>> [I picked up on the Palestine idea, mostly because the point about
>> Africa is way too broad to even start a conversation. Are you talking
>> about South Africa, the Congo, Ethiopia, ... where to even begin to
>> know what you are trying to indicate????]
>>
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