[Peace-discuss] David Gill gets one thing right

[E. Wayne Johnson]

I am fairly ignorant about Cuban doctors.  I havent been to Cuba
and have not met any Cuban doctors.  I am aware that many of them have
come to the US because of the vacuum in the US.

The life expectancy in Cuba is similar to that in the USA.
Cuba has quite a few more doctors per capita and operates on a far lower 
budget.

Maybe you have some opinion about Cuban doctors?

I usually compare doctors to veterinarians which accounts for my 
generally low opinion of doctors
in general.  I have met some very good doctors in the USA, though, and I 
went to a doctor not a vet
to get my rabies shots.  (Whether my rabies shots worked or not is open 
for discussion...)

I think that the number of graduate doctors in the US is kept low as a 
matter of policy.
Some would say that it is to maintain quality.  Surely no one should 
believe that shit.
It's the "unseen hand of the market", in this case, the sleight of hand.

The level of knowledge required to treat your common maladies (colds, 
flu, enteritis, etc) and assess your general health is
not the same as that required to tie off a bursting blood vessel inside 
yer skull or reattach your hand
after its encounter with a radial arm saw or externally adjust your 
malfunctioning endocrine system.
The US system likes to drive thumbtacks with a high-tech sledgehammer 
because it makes money to do
that way, and the perception has been sold to the people with stunning 
effect.

On 6/22/2012 1:41 AM, David Green wrote:
> Wayne, how would you compare the training and knowledge/skills of 
> Cuban doctors to American/European?
>
>     *From:* E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigsqq.org>
>     *To:* C. G. Estabrook <cge at shout.net>
>     *Cc:* Peace-discuss List <Peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>;
>     sf-core <sf-core at yahoogroups.com>
>     *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2012 12:33 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] David Gill gets one thing right
>
>     Gill will do very well.
>
>     The tea party will oppose single payer and obamacare because it is
>     coercive not because it is beneficent.
>     I think they are correct that coercive medical programs are
>     unconstitutional.  The socalled left will support
>     coercive medicine because they believe in the beneficence of the
>     nanny state.  The socalled right will oppose it
>     but will in fact support coercive medicine because it brings money
>     to their poor wealthy friends and
>     because it maintains the American Standard of Medical Care.  Sir,
>     yes, sir.
>
>     It is difficult for me to imagine that the creation of a
>     government bureaucracy to administer health care will
>     solve the problem.  It will create jobs.
>
>     My view is that the problem is systemic, not a matter of who pays
>     after the system has processed you.
>
>     In many countries other than the USA one can buy medicines
>     over-the-counter that are either completely unavailable
>     and forbidden in the United States or are on a prescription-only
>     basis, for a small fraction of what those same medicines
>     cost in the US.  This is the result of "crony capitalism" in the
>     USA system.
>
>     In many countries other than the USA when you go to the hospital,
>     they give you your medical records
>     and your x-rays and you can take them home and study them
>     yourself.  In the USA you are not smart
>     enough to even peer at them, even if you spent the night at a
>     Holiday Inn Express.
>
>     In many countries other than the USA if you are sick or injured or
>     have some problem with your body it
>     is easy enough to find a doctor, even one who will come to your
>     home and see about you.  In countries other than
>     the USA they know that most medical procedures are so simple even
>     a Caveman could be trained to do
>     them in about 15 minutes, so intravenous sets and saline bottles
>     are readily available over the counter
>     so you can go home and give yourself an IV in the privacy of your
>     own living room or the toilet of your choice.
>     In the USA the people are not smart enough to do this for
>     themselves, they need a health care professional,
>     a member of the guild, to do this for them.
>
>     In the USA the number of health care professionals is strictly
>     limited so that there is always an undersupply of
>     available care for you, the little guy.  The Galatians are being
>     milked and bilked.  Minor surgery
>     is when they cut on someone else
>
>     It's unfortunate that movements with great promise are turned
>     aside by a little bit of pepper spray.
>     The medical lobby is powerful and holy and believes in blood
>     donation as good leeches should.
>
>     As Fred Natural observed, Americans are soft.
>
>
>     On 6/21/2012 9:01 AM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
>     >
>     http://illinoisreview.typepad.com/illinoisreview/2012/06/david-gill-says-obamacare-doesnt-go-far-enough.html
>
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