[Peace-discuss] dying for the lie
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigs.ag
Thu May 3 13:30:28 UTC 2012
Laurence Vance apparently does not post anything at Global Research.
If you want to read more by Laurence Vance, he has collected a list of links
to his articles which can be found here:
http://www.vancepublications.com/articles%20by%20lmv.htm
Here is a pretty good piece by Vance from 2008 on the topic
"Christianity and War"
http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance143.html
Yes it is posted at LRC. Here is the gallery of rogues that
spoke at the same event:
http://www.fff.org/conference2008/index.htm
On 5/3/2012 8:25 AM, Roger Helbig wrote:
> what a really solid source - lewrockwell.com <http://lewrockwell.com>
> they are almost as bad as Global Research -
>
> On Wed, May 2, 2012 at 5:00 PM, E. Wayne Johnson <ewj at pigs.ag
> <mailto:ewj at pigs.ag>> wrote:
>
> Laurence Vance writes: http://lewrockwell.com/vance/vance289.html
>
> 155,754 Americans joined the military in fiscal year 2011 (Oct. 1,
> 2010--Sept. 30, 2011). Does anyone...actually believe that even a
> majority of those who joined the military did so because they
> loved liberty...? Could it rather have something to do with being
> talked into it by lying military recruiters, the billions the
> military spends on advertising, the No Child Left Behind Act, the
> promise of free money for college, the desire to get away from
> home, the chance to kill foreigners for real instead of just in
> video games, revenge for 9/11, the adventure, the world travel,
> family tradition, or the generous retirement benefits?
>
> I suspect the main reason is the economy; i.e., the poverty draft.
>
> Sorry, Joe, you -- like many other veterans in America -- didn't
> serve your country. You served the state. You helped maintain a
> global empire of troops and bases. You helped carry out an evil
> interventionist foreign policy. You didn't defend anyone's
> freedoms. You didn't preserve the American way of life. You didn't
> uphold the Constitution. You didn't protect the nation. You didn't
> "uphold the freedoms of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness
> for future generations" like the lying Marine Corps recruiting
> postcard <http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance197.html> says
> that was sent to high school students. Your death wouldn't have
> secured anything. Your death would have been in vain.
>
> ...
>
> Oh, U.S. troops have been busy for over two centuries, but they
> have been busy doing more intervening in foreign countries than
> defending Americans' freedoms. Things like disaster relief,
> humanitarian aid, nation building, regime change, assassinations,
> forcibly opening markets, bombing, invading, occupying, maiming,
> torturing, killing, peacekeeping, enforcing UN resolutions,
> preemptive strikes, spreading democracy at the point of a gun,
> garrisoning the planet with troops and bases, training foreign
> armies, rebuilding infrastructure, reviving public services,
> unleashing civil unrest, policing the world, intervening in other
> countries, and fighting foreign wars.
>
> Americans today face the triple threat of the warfare/national
> security/police state, largely due to conservatives in Congress
> (fully supported by conservative Christians outside of Congress)
> during the Bush years not overturning all the evils of the federal
> government that were already in place and adding much more evil of
> their own.
>
>
>
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