[Peace-discuss] [SDaS] Could we legally shut down the IMC?

Tue Nov 6 19:41:17 UTC 2012

I disagree -- I don't think the next move belongs to the IMC. You just
proposed the end of the IMC -- by any legal means, if I interpret your
message correctly -- and were enlisting cohorts to help you, even imagining
that "we" could use bureaucratic harassment to accomplish the task.

It's not clear to me from your message that you knew that an elected IMC
board of directors exists, meets regularly in public session, and has
discussed the issue of Leon McGee's sexual assault charge, which alleged
crime occurred on September 21, 2012. (The details of the alleged crime are
a matter of public record and have appeared in the News Gazette -- anyone
who cares to know about it can read about it.)

You wrote "I've become convinced": can you explain the process that led you
to be convinced that quite possibly the most progressive, racially
inclusive space in Champaign County should be scrapped? The last time I was
at the IMC was for a post-Unity March discussion about race and policing,
and it certainly didn't seem like Lord of the Flies to me.

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 11:17 AM, Robert Naiman <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org
> wrote:

> It isn't necessary to get into specifics here, because everyone in a
> position of responsibility or authority in the IMC knows exactly what we're
> talking about. The next move belongs to the IMC.
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>wrote:
>
>>      Wow, Bob.... I know about a huge number of IMC events involving a
>> very large number of people (IMC staff, local/area event organizers,
>> local/area event attendees) whom I know well, and *I've never heard one
>> word about anything dangerous!!*  And btw, I'm talking about the last
>> 10+ years, ever since the IMC bo't the bldg from the PO.
>>      Yes, institutions must be open and accountable, and names and
>> contact info should be posted clearly for Qs and complaints, but when you
>> post this kind of accusation as a given on Peace-discuss, you owe us
>> specifics, speaking of open and accountable.
>>       Looking forward to yr response. Thanks.
>>          --Jenifer
>>
>> --- On *Tue, 11/6/12, Danielle Chynoweth <chyn at ojctech.com>* wrote:
>>
>> From: Danielle Chynoweth <chyn at ojctech.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [SDaS] Could we legally shut down the IMC?
>> To: "Robert Naiman" <naiman at justforeignpolicy.org>
>> Cc: "sdas" <sdas-list at googlegroups.com>, "Peace-discuss List" <
>> peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "SFcore" <sf-core at yahoogroups.com>
>> Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 9:31 AM
>>
>>
>> Hi Bob,
>>
>>
>> Are you in charge of the IMC? I want to know who's in charge. Normal
>> institutions have a clear address for accountability.
>>
>> Yes, the board of directors which is elected annually by the membership
>> by 2/3 majority vote is responsible for the IMC.  I am a board member.
>>  Gary Storm is President.  Read about our structure and list of board
>> members here <http://www.ucimc.org/content/uc-imc-structure-legal-docs>.
>>
>> We have a board meeting at 2pm Nov 18th at the IMC where we will vote on
>> the board of directors positions (I am one of two women and am recruiting
>> wildly for women - nominations are due this Sunday).  I will be
>> facilitating a vision session for the IMC on that day and welcome visions,
>> revisions, and re-evolution.
>>
>>
>> > I have been discussing with a number of people about hosting a
>> conversation
>> > about the intersection of race and sexism and what justice can we forge
>> when
>> > someone is harmed as well as when the accused is facing a criminal
>> justice
>> > system that is neither just nor restorative. Some of these conversations
>> > have already happened informally.
>>
>> I'm interested in a different discussion: whether and how the IMC can
>> become an institution which is accountable to the community in which
>> it resides.
>>
>>
>> I am interested in that discussion too.  We used to have a very active
>> volunteer base that governed the IMC through the steering committee.  That
>> dissolved and we constituted an elected board which has become the main
>> institutional actors, along with some stalwart volunteers in the working
>> groups. The board was meant to deal with financial issues, not programming,
>> but it is expanding its role as the need for coordination is clear. I don't
>> think the structure we have yet works to get us where we want to go.  So we
>> need to talk first about where we want to go and then about how to get
>> there.  Your input very welcome.
>>
>> I do ALSO want to have a conversation also about how to restore this
>> community when harm is done, especially in light of a criminal justice
>> system that doesn't support victim or offender in healing.
>>
>>
>> > It has been hard to figure out how to hold a semi-public conversation in
>> > light of a pending legal case.  But I think we should.
>>
>> I think that there are issues that the IMC needs to address which can
>> be addressed regardless of the legal case.
>>
>>
>> I agree.  I am happy to make a separate meeting, although the membership
>> meeting could be a good place to begin the conversation.
>>
>>
>> > I personally have been heartbroken for many weeks, remembering all my
>> > sisters who have been raped with no consequence and remembering all my
>> > brothers who spent time being victimized by the criminal justice system.
>> >
>> > I want to talk and be part of the solution.  My cell phone is
>> 217.721.7223.
>>
>> I'm happy to be part of the solution; I'm happy to participate in any
>> conversation which is premised on the understanding that the IMC has
>> become an unaccountable and dangerous institution and it needs to
>> become accountable and this is an urgent priority.
>>
>>
>> I am not disagreeing, but I would like specifics. I would like you to
>> send me, on or off list, a list of those ways you see the IMC is dangerous
>> and unaccountable.  I think working from specific stories would help.
>>
>> in solidarity,
>> Danielle
>>
>>
>> > in solidarity,
>> >
>> > - Danielle
>> >
>> >
>> > On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 8:05 AM, Robert Naiman <
>> naiman at justforeignpolicy.org<http://mc/compose?to=naiman@justforeignpolicy.org>
>> >
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Dear friends,
>> >>
>> >> I've become convinced that the IMC has become a kind of Frankenstein
>> >> monster, a clear and present danger to the community. I've also become
>> >> convinced that there is little realistic prospect that the IMC will
>> >> reform itself to become a responsible and accountable institution,
>> >> answerable to the community in which it resides.
>> >>
>> >> The reason I have become convinced of this is that, unlike other
>> >> community institutions, when something bad happens in the IMC, there
>> >> is no clear address for responsibility and accountability. If a bad
>> >> thing happened in some other community institution, there would be a
>> >> clear address for complaint and redress. You could call the Executive
>> >> Director. You could contact someone on the Board. Responsible people
>> >> would tell you what their plans were for redress. There would be a
>> >> meeting of responsible people, empowered to take action. The meeting
>> >> would discuss: why did this happen, what can we do and what will we do
>> >> to try to stop this from happening in the future. But when something
>> >> bad happens in the IMC, there is no meeting of responsible people,
>> >> empowered to take action, for the simple reason that there can't be.
>> >> There's no such thing in the IMC as a group of responsible people,
>> >> empowered to take action. Because this is the case, there is a culture
>> >> of impunity in the IMC. And this is intrinsically dangerous to the
>> >> community. If the Urbana police announced, "in this three block
>> >> radius, we are no longer going to enforce the law," that would be
>> >> intrinsically dangerous to the community. That hasn't happened in this
>> >> case, of course. But there is a culture in the IMC of being above the
>> >> law and beyond accountability, and that is intrinsically dangerous to
>> >> the community.
>> >>
>> >> Therefore, since effective reform of the IMC seems impossible, I have
>> >> come to the conclusion that legal avenues should be explored to force
>> >> the IMC to shut down.
>> >>
>> >> I'm interested in brainstorming means by which the community could
>> >> legally force the IMC to shut down. Broadly speaking, I have two
>> >> ideas.
>> >>
>> >> 1. Civil lawsuit. The community could launch a civil lawsuit against
>> >> the IMC, seeking to force it to disgorge its assets, including its
>> >> building. Once the building had been seized, it could be sold off to a
>> >> developer who would raze it and construct something of use to the
>> >> community, like housing.
>> >>
>> >> 2. Action by the City of Urbana.
>> >>
>> >> A. The City of Urbana is legally empowered to seize the building by
>> >> eminent domain for a public purpose. The legal standard for this is
>> >> actually quite low. If the community came up with a reasonable plan
>> >> for seizing the building by eminent domain and using the land for a
>> >> public purpose, I have no doubt that we could get five votes on the
>> >> Urbana City Council for it.
>> >>
>> >> B. Zoning change or other legal change. The zoning of the IMC could be
>> >> changed so that it would be no longer possible to maintain an IMC-like
>> >> no-accountability institution there. The City could require that any
>> >> non-profit in the area have a legally accountable Executive Director.
>> >>
>> >> C. Vigorous enforcement of existing law. Typically, it's the case that
>> >> laws aren't enforced to the letter. A community pressure campaign
>> >> could push the City of Urbana to vigorously enforce all existing laws
>> >> with respect to the IMC. The IMC building is old. Probably it has code
>> >> violations. These could be enforced. Also, I think a regular parade of
>> >> uniformed city officials marching through the building would be
>> >> salutary. These things could help foster the perception inside the IMC
>> >> that it's not a Lord of the Flies island of no accountability, but
>> >> physically exists inside the City of Urbana where the rule of law
>> >> prevails.
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure others have ideas for legal means that we can use to end the
>> >> threat that the IMC represents to the community. I would be very
>> >> interested to hear them.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Robert Naiman
>> >> Policy Director
>> >> Just Foreign Policy
>> >> www.justforeignpolicy.org
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