[Peace-discuss] indoor market -- we are in

Fri Oct 5 19:42:01 UTC 2012

Uh, *good* negotiating skills...

On Oct 5, 2012, at 2:37 PM, "Carl G. Estabrook" <galliher at illinois.edu> wrote:

> Nice work. Goos negotiating skills. And you're right that it's helped us to think about what we're doing at the market. 
> 
> Publicity/public relations/information - not retailing - is why we're there.  --CGE
> 
> 
> On Oct 5, 2012, at 2:31 PM, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> We did ask the Holiday Market people about selling under the old terms for one final year, and they agreed.  So we will be in Lincoln Square for all six weeks, Nov. 10 - Dec. 15, and can sell our calendars etc.   (In future years, if we sell anything, it'd have to be Illinois-made stuff.  Perhaps we could make our own calendars...)
>> 
>> But people have offered a lot of good ideas and we can still carry them out.   I love the notion of sending peace to people we think need it!
>> 
>> On 10/1/12 12:46 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
>>> Did we ask the indoor market organizers for one final year w/ same rules as previous years??  
>>> 
>>> --- On Sun, 9/30/12, jgeo61 at comcast.net <jgeo61 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: jgeo61 at comcast.net <jgeo61 at comcast.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] indoor market trouble -- back out, sell nothing, argue?
>>> To: "David Johnson" <dlj725 at hughes.net>
>>> Cc: "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "sf-core" <sf-core at yahoogroups.com>, occupycu at lists.chambana.net
>>> Date: Sunday, September 30, 2012, 8:07 AM
>>> 
>>> Good Morning All,
>>> 
>>> I am ready to donate $50 to send calendars to our local gov. officials.  Great idea, Karen.
>>> 
>>> In Peace,
>>> Joy
>>> 
>>> From: "David Johnson" <dlj725 at hughes.net>
>>> To: occupycu at lists.chambana.net, "sf-core" <sf-core at yahoogroups.com>, "Peace-discuss List" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>, "Karen Medina" <kmedina67 at gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:37:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] indoor market trouble -- back out, sell nothing,        argue?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Karen,
>>> 
>>> I am willing to donate $ 50.00 to AWARE for those who cannot afford a calender, on the condition that I get a calender.
>>> 
>>> Who else on this list is willing and able to donate AT LEAST what I donated, if not more, for the EXCELLENT cause of AWARE ?
>>> 
>>> " Money Talks, Bullshit Walks ! "
>>> - George Chin Sr. -
>>> 
>>> " Organized People and Organized Money is the fuel for the vehicle that is the spirit and courage of direct action for   : Political, Economic and Social Change ! "
>>> 
>>> " Power to the People ! "
>>> 
>>> David Johnson
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Karen Medina
>>> To: Rohn Koester
>>> Cc: Peace-discuss List
>>> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 5:20 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] indoor market trouble -- back out, sell nothing,argue?
>>> 
>>> I really like Rohn's idea about sending calendars to people who "need" them. But here is a slightly different take on the idea. 
>>> 
>>> We take bids on those people -- peace list people will bid for their favorite deserving person -- as sort of a way to distribute the cost of doing this. 
>>> 
>>> For instance, I would love for the current Mayors of Champaign and Urbana to get a peace calendar and our letter (as described by Rohn), so I would offer $xx for AWARE to send them. 
>>> 
>>> If Carl would like Dr. Gill to get one, he would bid a few dollars and encourage others to bid for Gill too.
>>> 
>>> -karen medina
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 1:03 PM, Rohn Koester <rohnkoester at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey -- I think we should push back a bit and see if the Lincoln Square folks cut us some slack. If they don't, I like the idea of giving away the stickers and buttons but with a donations jar in prominent view.
>>> 
>>> As for the calendar, how about we send an announcement to the various community e-lists to identify everyone who wants to buy one of the calendars? After that, I propose we gift the remaining calendars to particular people in the community who NEED peace calendars, along with handwritten notes that explain our position on the wars and other war-like policies. If nothing else, I would be interested to know who responds to our gifts.
>>> 
>>> Here are four people I would send a peace calendar to: David Gill, Rodney Davis, Robert Easter, and John Foreman.
>>> 
>>> Any others?
>>> 
>>> rk
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> I like these in this order: 
>>> 1) tell powers that be that $ was invested based on old rules and request that old rules apply for one more year
>>> 2) go ahead w/ IL sales, then gifts/donations idea for time-dated non-IL stuff, eg calendars
>>> --Jenifer
>>> 
>>> --- On Wed, 9/26/12, Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> From: Ricky Baldwin <baldwinricky at yahoo.com>
>>> 
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] indoor market trouble -- back out, sell nothing, argue?
>>> To: "salevy at illinois.edu" <salevy at illinois.edu>, "ewj at pigsqq.org" <ewj at pigsqq.org>
>>> Cc: "peace-discuss at anti-war.net" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>>> Date: Wednesday, September 26, 2012, 7:34 PM
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Perhaps solicit donations to allow them to be given away free?
>>> 
>>> Sent from Yahoo! Mail on Android
>>> 
>>> From: "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <ewj at pigsqq.org>; 
>>> To: Stuart Levy <salevy at illinois.edu>; 
>>> Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; 
>>> Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] indoor market trouble -- back out, sell nothing, argue? 
>>> Sent: Wed, Sep 26, 2012 10:20:42 PM 
>>> 
>>> pack each sticker in an individual small plastic sleeve.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 09/27/12 5:46, Stuart Levy wrote:
>>>> News from the Indoor Market (Nov 10 - Dec 15):
>>>> 
>>>> They've had a rule on the books for some while, that only Illinois-made goods can be sold in the indoor market.  Each year, when the form asked whether we were selling things made in Illinois, we've checked that our goods weren't, and it's never made a difference.
>>>> 
>>>> This year, they're enforcing the rule.  Heard that they won't let us sell our non-IL bumper stickers, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> We have three choices that I can think of -
>>>> 
>>>>   - remain in the market ($30/week) for the public contact.  We're welcome to hand out flyers, etc.
>>>>     (For that matter, we could sell buttons and so on, if they're locally made.  Our current ones haven't been, except for buttons Rohn has made in the past.)
>>>> 
>>>>   - back out.  We get our money back.  Our last Market day would be the end of the regular Farmer's Market, on Nov. 3rd.
>>>> 
>>>>   - protest against the effective rule change without notice.
>>>>     One reason we might give: we've already spent $300+ on 2013 Peace Calendars,
>>>>     with the understanding that we'd sell them in the indoor market,
>>>>     as we have for the last three years at least.
>>>>     Maybe they'll give us one final year.
>>>> 
>>>> Any preference, or other ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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