[Peace-discuss] [Peace] This is for you Mr. Hebrig

Tue Oct 16 21:00:53 UTC 2012

Know what offends me? Lt. Col. Helbig seems to have been demoted to the
shit job of stirring up Leftists on Internet discussion lists.

Roger, man, just say the word, and I'll start the petition to get you out
of this.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <ewj at pigsqq.org>wrote:

> **
> Hey, I am offended.  I am not subscribed to the Peace list so I would
> not have seen your comment to mr. helbig under usual conditions.
>
> The peace list is generally a bunch of poseurs who like to be identified
> with the
> anti-war effort but dont want to read anything that might convince them
> that
> their ideology is flawed.
>
> Like good Democrats, they hate free speech.
> We are supposed to respect them for that.
> That's pretty much what the <peace> list is about.
>
> Officially the peace list is for announcements, while peace-discuss is for
> discussions.
>
> Thanks to Stuart and crew for keeping it going and maintaining it.
>
>
> On 10/17/12 3:57, David Johnson wrote:
>
> *Jenifer,*
> **
> *I don't give a shit if you respect me or not !*
> **
> *In regards to the lists, I recently changed internet providers and I
> made changes to my e-mail address book,  apparently I had " peace " instead
> of *
> *" peace discuss "  in the addresses.*
> *So if anyone on the list took offense to my posting on " peace " by
> mistake, please forgive me. *
> *Lastly, what is the purpose of the *
> *" peace " list ?*
> **
> *David Johnson*
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
> *To:* David Johnson <dlj725 at microsoft.com>
> *Cc:* Peace-discuss <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This is for you Mr. Hebrig
>
>   David Johnson,
> This belongs on Peace-discuss, NOT on Peace. If you respect the lists,
> those on the list will be more likely to respect you.
>  --Jenifer
>
> --- On *Fri, 10/12/12, David Johnson <dlj725 at microsoft.com>* wrote:
>
>
> From: David Johnson <dlj725 at microsoft.com>
> Subject: [Peace] This is for you Mr. Hebrig
> To: "Peace C-U Discussion" <peace at lists.chambana.net>
> Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 5:08 PM
>
>   Lets not forget that the CIA helped to create, finance, arm, train and
> encourage Al Queda and the Taliban against the populist left-wing
> government of Afganistan during the late 1970's and most of the 1980's.
> Lets also not forget the right-wing fanatical Jewish settlers who
> violently attack unarmed Palestinian civilians including women, old people
> and children, ALL financed from OUR tax dollars via the corporate
> controlled U.S. Government, in order to steal their land. Hebrig is
> trying to imply from his last post that the U.S. military occupation of
> Afganistan and yes Iraq ( 100,000 private mercenaries, 50,000 U.S. troops
> in 12 U.S. military bases and an embassy larger than the Vatican ) is for
> humanitarian and democracy reasons. Democracy and human rights has NEVER
> been a priority of the U.S. government since the end of World War II. Its
> all about corporate control of low wages and cheap natural resources that
> exclusively benefits the 1 %, at the expense of the rest of us, THE WORKING
> CLASS ! And yes Hebrig, rather you are in denial or not, YOU are also
> Working Class ! David Johnson Friday, October 12, 2012
>  Religious fundamentalists try to murder girl for seeking education.
>  The religious fundamentalists the Taliban have tried to murder 14 year
> old school girl Malala Yousafzai because she spoke out to say she wanted to
> be a doctor. This is an act of the most extreme and savage barbarity that
> must be unconditionally condemned by all. The US press is full of
> indignation about this event. However we need to keep in mind a few things.
> When it suited them one US government after another worked with the Taliban
> to try and achieve its aims in Afghanistan and Central Asia, these aims
> were to hem in Russia and China.
>
> We also have to remember that Saudi Arabia is the most important ally of
> the US in the Middle East after Israel. And here is what the New York Times
> has to say about this extreme fundamentalist regime, the friend of the Bush
> family, the US oil industry and US capitalism. In an article by Nicholas D
> Kristof in the New York Times October 11th, he wrote: "One of my greatest
> frustrations when I travel to Pakistan is that I routinely spot extremest
> madrases, or schools, financed by medieval misogynists from Saudi Arabia or
> elsewhere. They provide meals, free tuition and sometimes scholarships to
> lure boys  - because their donors understand perfectly that education
> shapes countries." So these allies and friends of the US capitalist class
> are financing the very outfits and pushing the very ideas that nurture the
> Taliban and end up killing young girls.
>
> Like the fundamentalist religious nut cases everywhere, whether in the
> Islamic world, or the Jewish world or the Christian world, these ideas and
> people are a threat to a civilized society and especially to women.
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