[Peace-discuss] [Peace] This is for you Mr. Hebrig

Thu Oct 18 01:29:01 UTC 2012

After the bruhaha last year, I don't know why y're still confused, but here it is again: 
Peace is for announcements ONLY, e g what's planned, where it's happening and when. Peace-discuss is for everything else, incldg announcements.. 

--- On Tue, 10/16/12, Rohn Koester <rohnkoester at gmail.com> wrote:

From: Rohn Koester <rohnkoester at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This is for you Mr. Hebrig
To: ewj at pigsqq.org
Cc: "Peace-discuss" <peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net>
Date: Tuesday, October 16, 2012, 4:00 PM

Know what offends me? Lt. Col. Helbig seems to have been demoted to the shit job of stirring up Leftists on Internet discussion lists.
Roger, man, just say the word, and I'll start the petition to get you out of this.

On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:25 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:

Hey, I am offended.  I am not subscribed to the Peace list so I would

not have seen your comment to mr. helbig under usual conditions.

The peace list is generally a bunch of poseurs who like to be
identified with the

anti-war effort but dont want to read anything that might convince them
that

their ideology is flawed.

Like good Democrats, they hate free speech.

We are supposed to respect them for that.

That's pretty much what the <peace> list is about.

Officially the peace list is for announcements, while peace-discuss is
for discussions.

Thanks to Stuart and crew for keeping it going and maintaining it.

On 10/17/12 3:57, David Johnson wrote:

  Jenifer,

  I don't give a shit if you
respect me or not !

  In regards to the lists, I
recently changed internet providers and I made changes to my e-mail
address book,  apparently I had " peace " instead of 
  " peace discuss "  in the
addresses.
  So if anyone on the list
took offense to my posting on " peace " by mistake, please forgive me. 
  Lastly, what is the purpose
of the 
  " peace " list ?

  David Johnson

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From:
    Jenifer Cartwright 
    To:
    David Johnson 
    Cc:
    Peace-discuss 
    Sent:
Sunday, October 14, 2012 11:29 PM
    Subject:
Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] This is for you Mr. Hebrig

          David Johnson,

This belongs on Peace-discuss, NOT on Peace. If you respect the lists,
those on the list will be more likely to respect you. 

 --Jenifer

--- On Fri, 10/12/12, David Johnson <dlj725 at microsoft.com>
wrote:

From: David Johnson <dlj725 at microsoft.com>

Subject: [Peace] This is for you Mr. Hebrig

To: "Peace C-U Discussion" <peace at lists.chambana.net>

Date: Friday, October 12, 2012, 5:08 PM

            Lets not forget
that the CIA helped to create, finance, arm, train and encourage Al
Queda and the Taliban against the populist left-wing government of
Afganistan during the late 1970's and most of the 1980's. Lets also not
forget the right-wing fanatical Jewish settlers who violently attack
unarmed Palestinian civilians including women, old people and
children, ALL financed from OUR tax dollars via the corporate
controlled U.S. Government, in order to steal their land.
            Hebrig is trying
to imply from his last post that the U.S. military occupation of
Afganistan and yes Iraq ( 100,000 private mercenaries, 50,000 U.S.
troops in 12 U.S. military bases and an embassy larger than the Vatican
) is for humanitarian and democracy reasons. Democracy and human rights
has NEVER been a priority of the U.S. government since the end of World
War II. Its all about corporate control of low wages and cheap natural
resources that exclusively benefits the 1 %, at the expense of the rest
of us, THE WORKING CLASS !
            And yes Hebrig,
rather you are in denial or not, YOU are also Working Class !
            David Johnson
            Friday, October
12, 2012

            Religious
fundamentalists try to murder girl for seeking education. 

            The
religious fundamentalists the Taliban have tried to murder 14 year old
school girl Malala Yousafzai because she spoke out to say she wanted to
be a doctor. This is an act of the most extreme and savage barbarity
that must be unconditionally condemned by all. The US press is full of
indignation about this event. However we need to keep in mind a few
things. When it suited them one US government after another worked with
the Taliban to try and achieve its aims in Afghanistan and Central
Asia, these aims were to hem in Russia and China.

We also have to remember that Saudi Arabia is the most important ally
of the US in the Middle East after Israel. And here is what the New
York Times has to say about this extreme fundamentalist regime, the
friend of the Bush family, the US oil industry and US capitalism. In an
article by Nicholas D Kristof in the New York Times October 11th, he
wrote: "One of my greatest frustrations when I travel to Pakistan is
that I routinely spot extremest madrases, or schools, financed by
medieval misogynists from Saudi Arabia or elsewhere. They provide
meals, free tuition and sometimes scholarships to lure boys  - because
their donors understand perfectly that education shapes countries." So
these allies and friends of the US capitalist class are financing the
very outfits and pushing the very ideas that nurture the Taliban and
end up killing young girls.

Like the fundamentalist religious nut cases everywhere, whether in the
Islamic world, or the Jewish world or the Christian world, these ideas
and people are a threat to a civilized society and especially to women.

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