[Peace-discuss] Americans Would Be Worse Off If Obama Were Defeated, WAS: Why we should vote (& much more) against Obama

"E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" ewj at pigsqq.org
Sun Oct 28 20:17:57 UTC 2012


I will admit that for some, voting for Obot or the Zombie is indeed
courageous.  Or maybe just plain fool-hardy.


On 10/29/12 3:04, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> Yeah, it's a no-brainer... but sadly some voters have no brain (or 
> heart... or courage).
>
> --- On *Thu, 10/25/12, Ricky Baldwin /<rbaldwin at seiu73.org>/* wrote:
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>     From: Ricky Baldwin <rbaldwin at seiu73.org>
>     Subject: [Peace-discuss] Americans Would Be Worse Off If Obama
>     Were Defeated, WAS: Why we should vote (& much more) against Obama
>     To: "Alex Cline" <rev.a.r.cline at gmail.com>
>     Cc: "peace-discuss at anti-war.net" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>     Date: Thursday, October 25, 2012, 6:03 PM
>
>     CENTER FOR ECONOMIC AND POLICY RESEARCH
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>     Americans Would Be Worse Off If Obama Were Defeated
>     [http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/americans-would-be-worse-off-if-obama-is-defeated
>     <http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/americans-would-be-worse-off-if-obama-is-defeated>]
>     By Mark Weisbrot
>     ________________________________________
>     This article was distributed by McClatchy Tribune Information
>     Services on October 24, 2012 and published by The Sacramento Bee 
>     [http://www.sacbee.com/2012/10/25/4937631/obama-is-correcting-the-massive.html]and
>     other newspapers. If anyone wants to reprint it, please let CEPR
>     know, by replying to this message.
>     ________________________________________
>     It was in the 1980 presidential contest that Ronald Reagan first
>     asked the question, "Are you better off than you were four years
>     ago?" It was a fitting introduction to the Age of Greed – don't
>     think about your fellow citizens or your country or the world, was
>     part of the message – and it ushered in the most massive upward
>     redistribution of income and wealth that America has ever seen.
>     Over the ensuing three decades the United States would become a
>     much more unequal
>     [http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/minimum-wage-raise-is-the-least-we-can-do-to-civilize-america
>     <http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/minimum-wage-raise-is-the-least-we-can-do-to-civilize-america>]
>     society, where the majority of people could no longer aspire to a
>     middle-class existence. The Reagan presidency itself was a
>     disgrace in other respects too, making America infamous in the
>     hemisphere for its sponsorship of genocide
>     [http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/clintons-apology-to-guatemala-is-a-necessary-first-step/
>     <http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/clintons-apology-to-guatemala-is-a-necessary-first-step/>]
>     and torture in Central America
>     [http://files.uniteddiversity.com/More_Books_and_Reports/Noam_Chomsky-Turning_the_Tide
>     _US_intervention_in_Central_America_and_the_Struggle_for_Peace.pdf] [pdf]
>     and dictatorships
>     [http://articles.latimes.com/1987-01-02/local/me-1475_1_human-rights]
>     elsewhere.
>
>     Now comes Mitt Romney in the Reagan tradition, hoping to win the
>     presidency on the basis of America's weak economy over the past
>     four years. But there are a number of problems with his argument.
>     First, the obvious: President Obama didn't create the economic
>     mess that we are looking at -- he inherited it from the previous
>     government. Although both Democratic and Republican politicians
>     contributed to the $8 trillion housing bubble that caused
>     [http://www.cepr.net/index.php/publications/books/the-end-of-loser-liberalism]
>     the Great Recession, it cannot be blamed primarily on the
>     Democrats and certainly not on Obama himself.
>
>     The question then is whether the Obama Administration has done
>     enough to turn things around in the past four years – and most
>     importantly, whether Romney might do better. I have criticized
>     President Obama for not pursuing a much larger stimulus, as have
>     other economists
>     [http://www.cepr.net/index.php/publications/books/the-end-of-loser-liberalism]
>     such as my colleague Dean Baker, and Nobel laureates Paul Krugman
>     and Joseph Stiglitz. The federal stimulus only replaced about
>     one-fifth of the private spending lost in 2009-2010 due to the
>     bursting of the housing bubble; and half of this stimulus was
>     canceled out by the budget tightening of state and local governments.
>     However, the federal stimulus did create an estimated three
>     million jobs
>     [http://www.frbsf.org/publications/economics/papers/2010/wp10-17bk.pdf]
>     [pdf] that would not otherwise have been there. The
>     administration's rescue of the auto industry, also opposed by
>     Romney and his party, probably saved another 1.5 to 2.5 million
>     jobs
>     [http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/26/opinion/sunday/a-million-jobs.html].
>     So, if you think that Obama didn't do enough in his first term,
>     you would not want Romney for the next four years, because he and
>     his party were opposed to the measures that actually did save
>     millions of jobs and hundreds of billions of dollars of income for
>     Americans. In fact, the Congressional Republicans cut $100 billion
>     [http://deanbaker.net/books/plunder-and-blunder-the-rise-and-fall-of-the-bubble-economy.htm]
>     out of the federal stimulus package that would have gone to state
>     and local governments so that they would not have pushed so many
>     people into the unemployment lines, including teachers and
>     firefighters.
>
>     On the positive side, President Obama's health care reform
>     [http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/obama-health-care-reform-is-a-step-forward-hopefully-toward-medicare-for-all
>     <http://www.cepr.net/index.php/op-eds-&-columns/op-eds-&-columns/obama-health-care-reform-is-a-step-forward-hopefully-toward-medicare-for-all>]
>     – which Mitt Romney wants to repeal – helps tens of millions of
>     Americans. The most important provisions do not kick in until
>     2014, when some 30 million additional Americans will have health
>     insurance, and people who have pre-existing health problems will
>     not be discriminated against in obtaining insurance. Some of the
>     provisions have already taken effect, for example allowing parents
>     to keep their children on their insurance policies up to age 26.
>
>     People might also want to take into account whether they will be
>     better off four years from now if President Obama loses. Perhaps
>     most worrisome are Romney's pledges to cut Social Security
>     [http://www.mittromney.com/issues/social-security], the bedrock
>     program that stands between most of our senior citizens and a life
>     of poverty. He also wants to cut other important government
>     programs in order to raise
>     [http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ezra-klein/wp/2012/10/22/the-full-transcript-of-the-third-presidential-debate/]
>     military spending by $2 trillion over the next decade – while most
>     of the country is really sick of our involvement in pointless
>     wars. These are not policies that will make Americans better off
>     four years from now.
>     ________________________________________
>
>     Mark Weisbrot  [http://www.cepr.net/index.php/mark-weisbrot/]is
>     co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, in
>     Washington, D.C He is also president of Just Foreign Policy
>     [http://www.justforeignpolicy.org/].
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>     From: occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net
>     </mc/compose?to=occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net>
>     [occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net
>     </mc/compose?to=occupycu-bounces at lists.chambana.net>] On Behalf Of
>     C. G. Estabrook [cge at shout.net </mc/compose?to=cge at shout.net>]
>     Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 2:32 PM
>     To: Alex Cline
>     Cc: occupycu; peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>     </mc/compose?to=peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>     Subject: Re: [OccupyCU] Why we should vote (& much more) against Obama
>
>     Maybe it comes from the position supporters of the administration
>     have to assume in order not to notice its crimes.
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>     On Oct 25, 2012, at 1:39 AM, Alex Cline <rev.a.r.cline at gmail.com
>     </mc/compose?to=rev.a.r.cline at gmail.com>> wrote:
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>     > all this covert shilling I've been doing lately is putting my
>     back out
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>     > On Wed, Oct 24, 2012 at 10:14 PM, ya'aQov <yaaqovz at gmail.com
>     </mc/compose?to=yaaqovz at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > Rachel,
>     >
>     > ocCUpy's list is not moderated; Carl takes full advantage of
>     that for his exploits; we each can moderate our inboxes by
>     filtering his eMails to spam/delete; but he keeps coming with new
>     eMail addresses, he's got the means; he also doesn't work 40 hours
>     a week, and is not too tired to trick those who do and are too
>     tired to keep creating filters.
>     >
>     > Income+health insurance-wise, Carl is not part pf the 47% and
>     can afford any president; and as Shakespeare said ('Julius
>     Caesar'), Carl is an honorable man.
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