[Peace-discuss] [Peace] [OccupyCU] Farmer's Market and Demonstration on Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6th for Bradley Manning on eve of Obama's speech?

[Gregg Gordon]

I find it mind-boggling that anyone who lived through the years 2000-2008 really believes "it makes no difference."




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 From: C. G. Estabrook <cge at shout.net>
To: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> 
Cc: Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; ocCUpy <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>; Peace <peace at anti-war.net> 
Sent: Saturday, September 1, 2012 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Peace] [OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration on Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6th for Bradley Manning on eve of Obama's speech?
 

I think it's wrong to give Obama a pass on Bradley Manning and hold off on condemning his crimes - from the suppression of WikiLeaks to the murders of Americans and others - for ostensible fear of a candidate (Romney) whose positions on economic and military matters are inherently identical to those of the administration. 

"Voting for reform-minded candidates should take about five minutes, and then we go back to the important work on the ground to change the conditions in which the mostly farcical election process proceeds" [Chomsky]. --CGE


On Sep 1, 2012, at 1:20 AM, Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com> wrote:

I'm guessing you guys haven't been listening to the Repub Convention speeches, but Romney et al are  FAR, FAR, FAR worse than Obama et al... So how 'bout we save our protests until AFTER the election, and use our energy defeating the LOTS WORSE evils??? It won't significantly affect YOUR lives if the Dems are defeated, but it will be devastating to MILLIONS across the US and the world.
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>--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>From: Stuart Levy <stuartnlevy at gmail.com>
>>Subject: [Peace-discuss] Farmer's Market and Demonstration on Saturday; and, another on Sept. 6th for Bradley Manning on eve of Obama's speech?
>>To: "Peace" <peace at anti-war.net>, "Peace Discuss" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>, "ocCUpy" <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>
>>Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:26 AM
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>>
>>The wars go on despite the weather and so shall we (at least we'll try).
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>>Expect AWARE and CUCPJ at the Farmer's Market tomorrow morning, 8-noon.
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>>And, from 2-4, the AWARE+OccupyCU demonstration will be at its usual first-Saturday site,
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>>   Main and Neil, downtown Champaign
>>   2-4 PM Saturday, Sept. 1st
>>
>>If it turns into a real downpour, we'll retire somewhere nearby for lunch.
>>
>>
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>>There's also a nationally-coordinated suggestion for groups to hold demonstrations on *Thursday, September 6th*, in support of Bradley Manning --
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>>    "Show Obama that Bradley Manning is our hero"
>>
>>Why the 6th?  That's the date of Obama's acceptance speech at the DNC.
>>
>>To make a definite *proposal*, how
 about:
>>
>>   (proposed) Demonstration in support of accused whistleblower Bradley Manning
>>   5:00PM Thursday, Sept. 6th
>>   Urbana Veterans' Memorial
>>       (that's Broadway and Main, or, the NW corner of the block where the county courthouse is)
>>
>>What do people think?   (Could also make sense to complain more broadly about Obama's unfulfilled promise as a peace, civil liberties, etc. candidate from four years ago.)
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>>If you like the idea *and* think you can be there for at least part of 5-6PM, please write back (either to peace-discuss at anti-war.net or to occupyCU or to me, but not to the peace list please).
>>
>>If we have at least, say, five people who believe they can do this, then let's go for it.  Meanwhile let's consider Sept. 6th as
 still tentative.
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