[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] What are the chances?

[E. Wayne Johnson]

Indeed I am sure that the desire to have "official approval" of
disgraceful and erosive immoral behaviour (homosexuality, baby killing)
is the Primary Motivating Factor for the support that Obama has.

"Freedom of Choice" sounds so nice, like it's really something good, 
something
desirable, something that will make one wise...  MADison Avenue should be
proud of such a deceptive cankerous misnomer for brutal murder.

Some thing like "Bovine Nutrient Management" it is.

Sent from my iBalls
Wayne


On 9/3/2012 5:45 AM, Germaine Light wrote:
> Women's intuition!
> ....as in freedom of choice & respect for women's bodies...equal 
> rights at work......gay rights....Romney Definitely on the wrong side 
> of this......Obama MUCH better!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Germaine
>
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 4:16 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <cge at shout.net 
> <mailto:cge at shout.net>> wrote:
>
>> Where's your evidence for that?
>>
>> He advertised his ability to cozen and mislead popular enthusiasms 
>> (like the '60s anti-war movement) in "The Audacity of Hope." (He 
>> called it "restoring people's trust in the government," which he said 
>> had been lost by the Vietnam war - but not by changing the war policy.)
>>
>> He gave a practical example in 2008 when he quite consciously 
>> co-opted the anti-war movement. People voted for him thinking he 
>> would end the war (as they gave Democrats control of Congress in 2006 
>> under the same misapprehension). He didn't give that impression by 
>> accident, and of course he immediately betrayed it in office (as 
>> Nixon did when he ran against the Democrats' war in 1968).
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Germaine Light <lightport at sbcglobal.net 
>> <mailto:lightport at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A lot bigger chance that Obama would listen to those in the streets!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Germaine
>>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 3:52 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <cge at shout.net 
>>> <mailto:cge at shout.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I won't vote for either one of them, it's not at all clear 
>>>> to me whether a Romney or an Obama presidency would add more to the 
>>>> sum of human happiness, since they both profess the same murderous 
>>>> economic and military policies (for all their efforts at product 
>>>> differentiation).
>>>>
>>>> Obama's re-election cannot avoid being interpreted as approval of 
>>>> those policies (cf. Little Bush's "political capital" in 2004), 
>>>> while Romney's election might be seen as their rejection, despite 
>>>> his protestations.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps, like FDR in 1932, a victorious Romney may be driven to 
>>>> reverse his professed positions, if the popular demand is strong 
>>>> enough. Politics is in the streets, not the ballot box.
>>>>
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