[Peace-discuss] [sf-core] What are the chances?
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigsqq.org
Mon Sep 3 00:42:26 UTC 2012
"Current Republican thinking is that value as a person begins at
conception and ends at birth. "
Cute phrase.
Nice pretext for killing them while they are little, eh?
Nice pretext for genocide, for weeding Sanger's garden.
"Republicans suck too!" -Scott Bludorn
On 9/3/2012 8:37 AM, Jenifer Cartwright wrote:
> No comparison on reproductive issues, care for dependent children,
> etc. Current Republican thinking is that value as a person begins at
> conception and ends at birth.
>
> --- On *Sun, 9/2/12, Germaine Light /<lightport at sbcglobal.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> Women's intuition!
> ....as in freedom of choice & respect for women's bodies...equal
> rights at work......gay rights....Romney Definitely on the wrong
> side of this......Obama MUCH better!
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> Germaine
>
> On Sep 2, 2012, at 4:16 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <cge at shout.net
> </mc/compose?to=cge at shout.net>> wrote:
>
>> Where's your evidence for that?
>>
>> He advertised his ability to cozen and mislead popular
>> enthusiasms (like the '60s anti-war movement) in "The Audacity of
>> Hope." (He called it "restoring people's trust in the
>> government," which he said had been lost by the Vietnam war - but
>> not by changing the war policy.)
>>
>> He gave a practical example in 2008 when he quite consciously
>> co-opted the anti-war movement. People voted for him thinking he
>> would end the war (as they gave Democrats control of Congress in
>> 2006 under the same misapprehension). He didn't give that
>> impression by accident, and of course he immediately betrayed it
>> in office (as Nixon did when he ran against the Democrats' war in
>> 1968).
>>
>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 4:00 PM, Germaine Light
>> <lightport at sbcglobal.net
>> </mc/compose?to=lightport at sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> A lot bigger chance that Obama would listen to those in the streets!
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> Germaine
>>>
>>> On Sep 2, 2012, at 3:52 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <cge at shout.net
>>> </mc/compose?to=cge at shout.net>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Although I won't vote for either one of them, it's not at all
>>>> clear to me whether a Romney or an Obama presidency would add
>>>> more to the sum of human happiness, since they both profess the
>>>> same murderous economic and military policies (for all their
>>>> efforts at product differentiation).
>>>>
>>>> Obama's re-election cannot avoid being interpreted as approval
>>>> of those policies (cf. Little Bush's "political capital" in
>>>> 2004), while Romney's election might be seen as their
>>>> rejection, despite his protestations.
>>>>
>>>> Perhaps, like FDR in 1932, a victorious Romney may be driven to
>>>> reverse his professed positions, if the popular demand is
>>>> strong enough. Politics is in the streets, not the ballot box.
>>>>
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