[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree On

[C. G. Estabrook]

Have you celebrated Labor Day by getting into the cooking sherry, Stan?


On Sep 3, 2012, at 8:12 PM, Stan Waggoner <swag901 at ymail.com> wrote:

> Carl,
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> You call me a liar. 
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> You are a fool if you fail to recognize the tyranny of the minority.  Would you rather have tyranny of the majority rather than the inclusion of all? 
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> We need a bullet proof majority, or the recognition that we are, contrary to the republican wish, a democracy.  Majority should rule, but all should be included.  The Cons should be willing to respect the will of the people, and if they do not, we should not throw that away for some Utopian belief that this is not a country of rules and compromise.
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> Stan
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> From: C. G. Estabrook <cge at shout.net>
> To: Stan Waggoner <swag901 at ymail.com> 
> Cc: Michael Weissman <mbwmbwmbw at gmail.com>; Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com>; ocCUpy <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>; Peace <peace at anti-war.net> 
> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 11:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree On
> 
> That's nonsense, Stan. Once the Democrats were given control of the Senate (in 2006) they could have abolished the 60-vote requirement. (Even with it they could have halted war appropiations with a mere 41 votes). But they preferred not to, insiting that they couldn't do any of the good things they'd really like to, because they were being prevented by the nasty Republicans. It was a good story - you and others bought it - but it's a (conscious) lie.  --CGE
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> On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Stan Waggoner <swag901 at ymail.com> wrote:
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> > When misrepresenting the problems of getting our country back on track, a couple things need be remembered.
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> > 1.    The Obama administration has been hamstrung by the tyranny of the minority.  The Senate requires 60 votes to get anything passed that would help middle class America.  Mitch McConnell has said his number one job is to make Obama a one term president.  John Boehner has said that if some of their policies cost jobs, "so be it".
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> > 2.    The Democrats had 135 days when they had a 60 vote super majority in the Senate after Al Frankin was sworn as Senator from MN.
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> > 3.    During that 135 days.  Tedd Kennedy was in hospice, and only made it down to Washington to vote twice.  Once was the ACA.
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> > 4.    If we get mad at Obama, and do not vote for him, that only weakens his chances of getting help for the middle class.
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> > Do not get me wrong, President Obama has done many things I wish he had done differently.  However, a vote for anyone other than Obama is a vote for the failed, extreme right wing policies that caused the condition our country is in today.
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> > Stan Waggoner
> > AKA Reasonable Man Stan
> > WEFT