[Peace-discuss] [OccupyCU] Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree On

Tue Sep 4 04:18:06 UTC 2012

Paul, you and I fell into dispute over the allocation of time on the radio version of 'News from Neptune,' and I proposed several solutions, one of which we follow on the Urbana Public Television version of the show (7pm Fridays on ch. 6 in C-U; & on YouTube).

After you tried physically to remove me from the studio - yelling "I want you off!" - I asked the programming committee to give me half the time, either each week or on alternate weeks. They refused, and I moved the show to television. 

We began 'News from Neptune' on WEFT in 1990 from a mutual admiration of the political analyses of Noam Chomsky, as a "spontaneous and unrehearsed discussion of the news of the week and its coverage by the media," and - as you know - from the beginning of the TV version I've said that you have an open invitation to participate in it.

You have replaced me on WEFT with selections from programs generally available online from Glen Ford and Doug Henwood, and I must say that I'd be hard pressed to think of better choices, once you've excluded local programming.

But what's a "Harvard style colloquy"? I've never heard the phrase.  --CGE

On Sep 3, 2012, at 10:31 PM, Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com> wrote:

> You left the show because you wanted to use an egg timer to allot ten minutes to each of 3 speakers and then to have a Harvard style colloquy for 30 minutes, 
> Frankly one of the stupidest ideas I can imagine for live radio. And , you have been lying about it on almost every show you do. Info from unamed informant.
> 
> I
> Sent from my iPhone 3GS, It doesn't chat!
> 
> On Sep 3, 2012, at 10:16 PM, "C. G. Estabrook" <cge at shout.net> wrote:
> 
>> WEFT has a recent history of blackballing people and ideas that would embarrass a particularly benighted college fraternity, Stan.
>> 
>> Censoring my show after 20 years is in fact one of its lesser misdemeanors. 
>> 
>> But I'm glad to be able to make 'News from Neptune' available on public TV and online.
>> 
>> 
>> On Sep 3, 2012, at 9:13 PM, Stan Waggoner <swag901 at ymail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Carl,
>>>  
>>> You put your self out. 
>>>  
>>> On the air, you told listeners not to contribute to WEFT pledge drives.  No corporation would allow that.  Why should we at WEFT allow you to do things against the best interest of WEFT?
>>>  
>>> Then there is the fact that a year or so ago I reached out to you to offer you a show, and all you had to do was not tell people not to contribute during pledge drives.  You refused.  Take responsibility for your own failings please, rather than blame others, as the Republicans do.
>>>  
>>> Stan
>>> 
>>>  
>>> From: C. G. Estabrook <cge at shout.net>
>>> To: Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com> 
>>> Cc: Stan Waggoner <swag901 at ymail.com>; Michael Weissman <mbwmbwmbw at gmail.com>; Peace Discuss <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>; Gregg Gordon <ggregg79 at yahoo.com>; ocCUpy <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>; Peace <peace at anti-war.net> 
>>> Sent: Monday, September 3, 2012 1:14 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [OccupyCU] [Peace-discuss] Closer Than You Think: Top 15 Things Romney and Obama Agree On
>>> 
>>> It suggests a lack of confidence in your views that you two gentleman have worked assiduously to see that contradictory views aren't expressed on WEFT (with the notable exception of the Illinois World Labor Hour). 
>>> 
>>> "I want you off!" is the way you both put it to me...  --CGE  
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sep 3, 2012, at 12:51 PM, Paul Mueth <paulmueth at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> >> Do not get me wrong, President Obama has done many things I wish he had done differently.  However, a vote for anyone other than Obama is a vote for the failed, extreme right wing policies that caused the condition our country is in today.
>>> >>  
>>> >> Stan Waggoner
>>> >> AKA Reasonable Man Stan
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > As I said on your show last week, in Ill.
>>> > It is possible to register a third party vote. I'm very likely to vote green again this round. In the swing states I agree with Chomsky et al that a vote against RomneyRyan is important considering how much real pain is already present and for the many people on the margins(not the right language anymore) it could get much worse with RR. Considering a congressional red sweep is not out of the question. . . . 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > I don't spend a lot a to time on this  discourse. I hope some people on these list will do some work on the referenda and perhaps the media transparency in political ads "project"
>>> > 
>>> > ( are superPAC buying ads to go after single payer in the local race?)
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Cheers
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Sent from my iPhone 3GS, It doesn't chat!
>>> > 
>>> >>  
>>> >> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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