[Peace-discuss] Finkelstein on Ghandi

ewj at pigsqq.org ewj at pigsqq.org
Tue Sep 4 23:26:05 UTC 2012


The powers that be permit and encourage the propagation of Gandhi-ism.   Passive Resistance makes the news but in fact you don't melt Hitler's heart with passive resistance.  

Obama and Karl Rove don't give a rat's ass about your phone calls and letter writing.  

Indeed they hope that you will continue to waste your time and effort and money on such futile and absolutely useless activities.

It should be clear to all that the only way to hold Obama's feet to the fire is to do it literally.

The fact that Amerikans shrink from violence as a political force (indeed I do too) means that nothing will change at all.


>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
>  To: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>  Cc: peace-discuss at anti-war.net <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>
>  Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Finkelstein on Ghandi
>  Sent: Sep 05 '12 01:34
>  
>  Yes, I do. There are only tactical differences.
>  
>  
>  FROM: Jenifer Cartwright <jencart13 at yahoo.com>
>  TO: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
>  SENT: Tuesday, September 4, 2012 12:25 PM
>  SUBJECT: Re: [Peace-discuss] Finkelstein on Ghandi
>  
>  
>  You don't really believe that Obama's as bad as Romney when it comes to
>  Israel-Iran, do you??
>  
>  --- On TUE, 9/4/12, DAVID GREEN _<DAVEGREEN84 at YAHOO.COM>_ wrote:
>  
>  From: David Green <davegreen84 at yahoo.com>
>  Subject: [Peace-discuss] Finkelstein on Ghandi
>  To: "peace-discuss at anti-war.net" <peace-discuss at anti-war.net>,
>  "occupycu at lists.chambana.net" <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>
>  Date: Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 9:03 AM
>  
>  
>  http://www.zcommunications.org/gandhi-and-occupy-by-norman-finkelstein
>  
>  There is a lot to be learned from Finkelstein's study of Gandhi that is
>  relevant to tactics being discussed on various local lists. Notice that
>  elections and voting in our two party system are (tellingly) not even
>  mentioned. Neither party is mentioned. In my opinion, Republicans promote
>  the neoliberal agenda by proposing extreme measures. Democrats promote the
>  neoliberal agenda by proposing compromises with Republicans. This has been
>  a collective effort for goals that rulers of both parties support. It's
>  worked pretty well for 36 years, since the campaign of 1976 when Carter was
>  elected.
>  
>  There are worthy goals of equality and recognition regarding race, gender,
>  sexual orientation, immigrants, etc. still to be achieved, obviously.
>  Unfortunately, these goals are by and large co-opted as a part of
>  Democratic Party tactics to win votes for their ultimately neoliberal
>  agenda, which ultimately converts genuine grievances into identity
>  politics. That is why, even given an understanding of the historical
>  struggle for voting rights for African-Americans, I'm left cold by all the
>  attention being devoted to voting rights by the progressive media. Of
>  course there are legitimate ongoing grievances and Republican outrages; but
>  ultimately an emphasis on "working within the system" is only to the
>  advantage of the domianant in a system based on domination.
>  
>  And don't forget that both parties will try to run to the "right" of each
>  other regarding foreign policy, especially Israel; ain't nobody gonna get
>  my Jewish vote.
>  
>  David Green
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