[Peace-discuss] Truly a polymath
E. Wayne Johnson
ewj at pigsqq.org
Thu Sep 20 12:41:37 UTC 2012
Whether a fake or simply pseudepigraphal what's the diff?
The argument of a "nubby pen" reminds me of Gill a little.
On 9/20/2012 8:27 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
> A star even in the coptological community... (Despite his inability to
> answer questions about how he'd vote in Congress.)
>
> [From <http://paul-barford.blogspot.com/2012/09/christian-askeland.html>]
>
> A lot of convincing arguments are now coming out which seem to be
> pointing quite firmly to the conclusion that the so-called "Gospel of
> Jesus' wife" is indeed a fake as I suggested in my first post here
> about it.* David Gill *has pointed me to some interesting discussion
> on the Evangelical Textual Criticism blog, in particular the
> post by Christian Askeland which was begun from the conference in
> Rome where this item was (prematurely it now seems) announced.
>
> In an update Dr Askeland announced that initial reactions among
> the coptological community at the International Association of Coptic
> studies conference were split.
> My initial perception is that those who specialize in Nag Hammadi and
> early manuscripts are split with about four-fifths being extremely
> skeptical about the manuscript’s authenticity and one-fifth is fairly
> convinced that the fragment is a fake. I have not met anyone who
> supports its authenticity, although I do not doubt that there must be
> some.
>
> There is it seems now a growing list of prominent Coptologists who are
> completely convinced that this is a fake. Dr Askeland himself says: "I
> have no doubt that this fragment was not part of a literary document
> of any kind (e.g. a codex). If I had to guess, I would have to say
> that this manuscript is a forgery". He notes the appeal to authority
> to support the authenticity in the absence of other information. He
> points out that the script of the object in fact does not resemble
> manuscripts of a known fourth century date, and he does not accept the
> "nubby pen" argument. He also says "if an amateur with a basic
> knowledge of Coptic were to forge a text, it would look like the text
> under question" and asks "what other manuscripts (esp. literary)
> actually look like this fragment? It looks like a fake".
>
> In the comments, among other things, Simon Gathercole notes:
> "the script is at least fishy [...] Most of it is paralleled in the
> Gospel of Thomas, images of which are easily accessible on the web".
> Forum member chill was concerned about the state of preservation of
> the object:
> Does anyone else think the ink in relation to the papyrus fibers looks
> odd? (1) except for maybe the first 2 lines, the letters at the ends
> of lines seem fitted to the fragment (2) what appears to be effacement
> of the papyrus in a vertical strip about a third of the way across the
> fragment seems to have affected the surface of the papyrus but not the
> writing (3) I agree with Christian that it looks like it was written
> with a brush.
> As one forum member sums it up: "No provenance, no ink testing,
> unparalleled writing, grammatical errors, suspicious dependence on
> Thomas, ductus doesn't look right. By day 3 there are significant
> objections for this little scrap to overcome".
>
> Moreover, in contrast to some comments that were being reported
> yesterday it emerges that it is against the 2007 ASP resolution that a
> papyrologist should not add "significantly to the commercial value of
> [stolen] papyri", which includes papyri taken out of Egypt after 1972.
>
> So how many other scholars are going to get misled by fake antiquities
> surfacing from "underground" on the no-questions-asked antiquities
> market where the unnamed collector who now wants to sell this fragment
> to Harvard bought his stuff? In the light of this train-wreck, does
> not the AIA resolution about its members getting involved in the
> publication of such material make an awful lot of sense. This stuff is
> double-dodgy.
>
> Hat tip to David Gill
> Posted by Paul Barford at 04:58
>
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