[Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting...

Carl G. Estabrook galliher at illinois.edu
Mon Aug 19 00:31:10 UTC 2013


How about this?

~ "virtually" is an adverb modifying "any-," a special sort of adjective (sometimes called a "determiner") modifying "-thing."

So the sentence would indeed imply that some things could not be distributed but most things could.

Or perhaps it's just another indication of the inadequacy of traditional English grammar. 

It was remarked long ago that English has no grammar, just a rhetoric. But I'm sure Chomskyans would disagree. 

I'd love to be able to consider a similar question in Mandarin...

--CGE

On Aug 18, 2013, at 5:42 PM, "E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森" <ewj at pigsqq.org> wrote:

> My English gets worse and worser.
> 
>> we can distribute virtually anything we come up with
> 
> Is virtually an adverb modifying anything "virtually anything",
> implying that some things could not be distributed but most things could?
> 
> or
> 
> Is virtually an adverb modifying distribute "distribute virtually"
> indicating use of an electronic medium for distribution?
> 
> 
> On 08/19/13 2:34, Stuart Levy wrote:
>> 
>> Hey Karen and everybody,
>> 
>> We seem to be evenly split between meeting virtually vs meeting at 4.  Karen (Medina) and I are game to show up at 4 today, at the usual White Horse, with whoever else would like to, for say not more than 45 minutes... and we can distribute virtually anything we come up with.
>> 
>> 
>> Two important things I left out of the earlier note:
>> 
>> 1)   Right, Quad Day: Sunday, Aug. 25th,  noon-4PM.
>>      I haven't heard of any arrangements so far.  I think David Green was asking SJP whether they'd let us join them, but don't know if we've heard back yet.   The ISO also has a table, and perhaps we could ask them.   Both are near the northwest corner of the quad, in a ghetto reserved for political groups, on a diagonal sidewalk just south of the western side of the Illini Union.
>> 
>>      A question for us: if we have the chance to, how should we present ourselves at Quad Day?   We don't currently have a what-is-AWARE flyer; would anyone be up for work on creating one?   In any case, we could bring some recent demonstration flyers, and possibly a demo sign if our host agrees to that.   Carl liked one that we'd been using at the Farmer's Market, celebrating three great whistleblowers - Ellsberg, Manning, Snowden.
>> 
>>      In any case we'd want the signup clipboard.   Gathering contact information for interested people will be important.
>> 
>> 2)  March on Washington, next Sat, Aug 24th.
>>      Next weekend is the 50th anniversary of the 1963 March on Washington.   A large demo is planned for the 24th.
>> 
>>      The NAACP (at least) is organizing buses from around Illinois, and trying to get people to DC.   Several buses are planned from around the state - not sure whether one is passing through C-U, but it could be, and may depend on whether there's interest.    The rally is Saturday morning and afternoon, so I imagine a bus might leave (here or Peoria or Kankakee) sometime Friday afternoon, and return some time Sunday.
>> 
>>       Patricia Avery, of the NAACP of Champaign County  http://naacpcc.org, is I think coordinating:
>>             patricicavery {at} gmail.com      (yes, really patricicavery).
>> 
>>       There are buses from Kankakee and Chicago; there's also one from Springfield which could stop in C-U if there's enough interest.   The Springfield bus plans to stay overnight in DC ($99 hotel rooms), the others will drive back after the rally.
>> 
>>   What could people of the peace movement expect from this event?  There's been some discussion of that on the UFPJ mailing list.   Phyllis Bennis wrote:
>> 
>>> If we look back at the October 2010 "One Nation Together" march, the first re-connection of the labor and civil rights movement in years, there was a similar challenge.  Anti-war organizations, especially UFPJ, were part of the organizing, but there were no officially designated representatives of the peace movement among the speakers. But when the UAW's Bob King and the great Harry Belafonte took the stage, both wrapped powerful anti-war messages into their speeches, and the huge crowd went wild. 
>>>  
>>> 
>>> Harry spoke of Dr. King's recognition in 1967 that the war in Viet Nam was not only unconscionable, but also unwinnable. And then he said
>>>  
>>> "Now today, almost half a century later, as we gather in this place where Dr. King prayed for the soul of this great nation … the wars that we wage today in far-away lands are unconscionable, immoral, and unwinnable. …The president’ s decision to escalate the war, in that region alone, costs the nation $33 billion. That sum of money could not only create 600,000 jobs, but would even leave us a few million to start rebuilding our schools, our roads, our hospitals and affordable housing. It will also help to rebuild the lives of our returning wounded veterans…. Peace is necessary for justice. It is necessary for hope. It is necessary for our future.”
>>>  
>>> The crowd roared.  People there had largely been mobilized by the labor movement and the civil rights movement, not the peace movement. But their openness, eagerness, to take literature, engage in conversations, talk about the costs of war, even buy t-shirts! - was amazing.  They - not the count of speaker affiliations - is still why we go.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> There are plenty of limitations in how the leadership of next week's march, 50 years after the 1963 march on Washington,  is framing the issues - and the lack of a specific focus on wars and military spending is certainly top of my list of problems.  But that's precisely why a major presence of anti-war and peace voices needs to be there. Big protests are never only about who's on the stage and what they say - although that's important.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 8/18/13 10:28 AM, Karen Aram wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>> Stuart
>>>  
>>> I am okay with 4:00pm. If you and Karen need a ride to the meeting, let me know.
>>>  
>>> Question: Do we share a table with a group at the Quad on Quad day? Carl was going to ask David Green about that. If so, we need to discuss.
>>>  
>>> I am also interested in discussing support and assistance for David Green's campaign.
>>>  
>>> Sorry, I wasn't at last weeks meeting so I am uninformed.
>>>  
>>> Karen A.
>>>  
>>> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2013 09:16:00 -0500
>>> From: salevy at illinois.edu
>>> To: peace-discuss at anti-war.net
>>> CC: salevy at illinois.edu
>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] AWARE meeting - What do we need this week? (re 5pm Sun showing of locally-made film)
>>> 
>>> Peaceable people,
>>> 
>>> What do we need to decide at our next meeting, normally today at 5pm?
>>> 
>>> It's at the same time as the only showing of a locally made film ("House of Thaddeus", 5pm sharp at the Art Theater, today, Sunday the 18th).   I'd really like to see this, maybe others would too.   Can we do business by e-mail today?   Or, Karen suggests, we could meet earlier, say 4pm.    Or we could meet at 5 as usual.   
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Upcoming events:
>>> 
>>>    10AM Tuesday, Aug 20th: Comprehensive Immigration Reform rally at Rep. Rodney Davis' office, 2004 Fox Drive, Champaign.
>>>        The Immigration Forum group is encouraging anyone interested in immigration reform to attend this rally, to help press Davis to support the cause.  (In Peoria, Illinois People's Action recently got Aaron Schock, a right-wing Republican, to agree to support having a path to citizenship.)
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    8-noon, Saturday, Aug 24th: still not sure whether we'll have a space at Farmer's Market next week.  The spaces are full, though they're checking whether we might be able to be on a waiting list.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    1:30PM Sunday, Sep 1st, Champaign Public Library:   David Green announces his candidacy for US Congress!
>>> 
>>> 
>>>    2-4PM Saturday, Sep 7th, Main & Neil: monthly demonstration.
>>> 
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