[Peace-discuss] [Peace] Organize!
Karen Aram
karenaram at hotmail.com
Sun Jul 14 18:07:26 UTC 2013
The defence attorney was very good, with his use of "intent to kill" during that time on the sidewalk. Even the best of juries aren't mind readers. Actions/behavior are a good sign of "intent", once argued in another similar case in 1965 and 1943. Also," intent" is not usually brought into a 2nd degree murder trial, its only of importance in a 1st degree trial, though I don't know the circumstances or laws of Florida as different states have........ The prosecutors did a poor job, deviating from the evidence in the last week of the trial, according to some attorneys, which leads to speculation related to their "intent." This will likely be a civil trial eventually going to the Justice Dept. as a "hate crime". This will of course give the media much to spend time on distracting us all from Bradley Mannings trial, drone killings overseas, dirty wars, and the loss of our 4th amendment rights, which is of great importance to this nation, just as is justice for Trayvon Martin.
I'm not about persecuting Zimmerman or looking for blood, playing the blame game is of little value, but this case represents the fear of others and racism that is perpetuated in our society by government and the 1% who benefit from keeping the public distracted and disunited.
From: galliher at illinois.edu
Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 12:38:35 -0500
To: brussel at illinois.edu
CC: rachelstrm at gmail.com; peace-discuss at lists.chambana.net
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] [Peace] Organize!
That's what the jury was supposed to decide, and apparently they did.
On Jul 14, 2013, at 12:35 PM, "Brussel, Morton K" <brussel at illinois.edu> wrote:
How do you know who attacked whom? Who was trailed? Who was unarmed? Who was killed? Manslaughter?
Too many unfounded assertions here, and unstated "facts" such a the composition of the jury. You are rather far from this to judge. It's not pretty.
--mkb
On Jul 14, 2013, at 10:31 AM, E. Wayne Johnson 朱稳森 wrote:
The Martin/Zimmerman incident is not like the
Champaign Police shootings of young black men.
Zimmerman may be an asshole or not. I am not sure.
Most but not all cops and wannabee cops are
indeed quasi-assholes. Not all.
But clearly Zimmerman was attacked, and on that basis he
has been set free, because of the self-defense argument.
The cause of the dispute betwen Martin and Zimmerman
becomes irrelevant when Zimmerman is attacked.
It's not like Zimmerman just pulled out his gun and
Oba-nam Style executed him because he was wearing a hoodie.
The law permits people to have encounters and disagreement.
When it erupts into physical violence particularly life-threatening
violence, then a line is crossed. The situation was
examined very clearly.
Justice my ass.
It's not justice that they are crying for.
It's blood.
They want an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth
They want blood for bloodshed.
Well, actually what they want is Money.
But since there isn't any money available,
they'll settle for a few pints of blood,
and several ounces of testicular flesh if that
becomes available.
It is really a disgusting distraction for a noble movement
like Occupy! to get down and grub for cooties
with the blood-lust crowd.
On 07/14/13 22:02, Karen Aram wrote:
Rachel
After today's AWARE meeting at 5:00, I will be attending the protest, bringing a neighbor as well.
Trayvon Marvin represents the many young black men from Emmet Till, Jimmie Lee Jackson, Robert Hall etc., etc. murdered because of their race, with the perpetrators so obviously being acquitted by unjust laws and or decisions.
Karen Aram
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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 03:51:39 -0500
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Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] Organize!
Hey folks---If anyone has heard of another demo being planned, I'm happy to send notices out, cancel this one, and redirect people there. I've contacted a number of African-American led organizations in town and can't seem to tell if something is already in
the works. Either way, I'm happy to help try and get the word out and then redirect if need be.
Okay, here's what I got to start. https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create
Please forward widely.
No Justice, No Peace x Protest the Verdict
Sunday, July 14th, 2013 | 6pm-8pm
Douglass Park | 512 E. Grove St. Champaign
"George Zimmerman, the neighborhood watch volunteer who fatally shot Trayvon Martin, an unarmed
black teenager, igniting a national debate on racial profiling and civil rights, was found not guilty late Saturday night of second-degree murder." We
will stand together in Champaign-Urbana to demand accountability, to stand against racial injustice, and to protest the verdict that proved the injustice of the system. We
stand with Trayvon’s family and we know that we are called to act---to fight for civil rights and for the removal of Stand
Your Ground laws in every state, and we will not rest until racial profiling in all its forms is outlawed. Today
we mourn, but tomorrow we organize. #blacklivesmatter
Bring your friends, your family, your children, your neighbors. We stand together as a community--all of us. Art, protest signs, candles, and messages of outrage/hope/love/solidarity are encouraged.
Share on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/events/206857249471575/?context=create
On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 2:36 AM, Rachel Storm
<rachelstrm at gmail.com> wrote:
I think we need an emergency demonstration tomorrow in response to the Zimmerman verdict to show that Urbana community members/activists/folks in solidarity do not stand for this outrageous demonstration of injustice.
Can we plan to meet somewhere very public tomorrow (Sunday) at 6pm-ish?
WHERE?
Rachel
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