[Peace-discuss] An apposite comment on the Zimmermandemonstrations

[Laurie Solomon]

To be completely honest here, I do not see being capitalist or 
anti-capitalist as necessarily resulting in or producing less or the 
extinction of racism, sexism, ethnic prejudice and bigotry, or any other 
biases.  Most Americans -if not people - seem incapable of dealing with more 
than one issue or problem at a time and typically fail to see things as 
either systemic or historically.  There is a distinct tendency to see 
everything as being clear cut, finite, and atomistic.

-----Original Message----- 
From: C. G. Estabrook
Sent: July 15, 2013 4:50 PM
To: Laurie Solomon
Cc: Peace Discuss ; sftalk at yahoogroups.com ; <occupycu at lists.chambana.net>
Subject: Re: [Peace-discuss] An apposite comment on the 
Zimmermandemonstrations

I think we also have an example here of "the extraordinaire eagerness of 
American liberals to identify racism as the problem, so that anti-racism 
(rather than anti-capitalism) can be the solution" (Walter Benn 
ichaels).  --CGE

On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Laurie Solomon <ls1000 at live.com> wrote:

> I can completely concur with Henwood’s statement and would even generalize 
> it to most of the protest demonstrations, commentary, etc. that liberals, 
> progressives, or whatever they have been named or call themselves have 
> engaged in with respect to most – if not all – the various issues that 
> they have advocated.  At best, most of their activities have been no more 
> than the symbolic polictics of self-expression and testimony with little 
> translation into actually effective action.  And like Henwood, I don’t 
> know the answer to the question of how one translates one into the other; 
> nor do I really see much sign that people are even attempting to deal with 
> the issues involved in the question with respect to this or other topics.
>
> From: C. G. Estabrook
> Sent: July 15, 2013 3:23 PM
> To: Peace Discuss
> Cc: sftalk at yahoogroups.com ; mailto:occupyCU at lists.chambana.net
> Subject: [Peace-discuss] An apposite comment on the Zimmerman 
> demonstrations
>
> Doug Henwood writes,
>
>> "...I understand the reasons for protest completely. But then what? How 
>> are protests in New York and Los Angeles going to change Florida law or 
>> police practice? How do we get beyond the politics of self-expression and 
>> testimony to something that's actually effective? I don't know the answer 
>> to this, but I don't see much sign that people are even asking the 
>> question."
>


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