[Peace-discuss] [sftalk] Re: An apposite comment on the Zimmerman demonstrations

[C. G. Estabrook]

It is nevertheless precisely the move that the Democrats - formerly the party of the New Deal and the "common man" - chose to make in the 1970s, when they gave up their social democratic tendencies in exchange for diversity (i.e., identity politics).


On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:56 PM, "Brussel, Morton K" <brussel at illinois.edu> wrote:

> I believe this to be a dumb remark, as if one who has two hands decides to use only one. Others have expressed the same thought.
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> --mkb
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> On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:50 PM, C. G. Estabrook wrote:
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>> I think we also have an example here of "the extraordinaire eagerness of American liberals to identify racism as the problem, so that anti-racism (rather than anti-capitalism) can be the solution" (Walter Benn Michaels).  --CGE
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>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 3:40 PM, Laurie Solomon <ls1000 at live.com> wrote:
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>>> I can completely concur with Henwood’s statement and would even generalize it to most of the protest demonstrations, commentary, etc. that liberals, progressives, or whatever they have been named or call themselves have engaged in with respect to most – if not all – the various issues that they have advocated.  At best, most of their activities have been no more than the symbolic polictics of self-expression and testimony with little translation into actually effective action.  And like Henwood, I don’t know the answer to the question of how one translates one into the other; nor do I really see much sign that people are even attempting to deal with the issues involved in the question with respect to this or other topics.
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>>> From: C. G. Estabrook
>>> Sent: July 15, 2013 3:23 PM
>>> To: Peace Discuss
>>> Cc: sftalk at yahoogroups.com ; mailto:occupyCU at lists.chambana.net
>>> Subject: [Peace-discuss] An apposite comment on the Zimmerman demonstrations
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>>> Doug Henwood writes,
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>>>> "...I understand the reasons for protest completely. But then what? How are protests in New York and Los Angeles going to change Florida law or police practice? How do we get beyond the politics of self-expression and testimony to something that's actually effective? I don't know the answer to this, but I don't see much sign that people are even asking the question."
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